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发表于 2005-8-17 22:30 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
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Just becuase you are carrying a gun in a war zone, dose not make you
' T% Q' u/ Z$ A6 z- Pa combatant "Dude"
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In fact its that mind set that is gonna kill the "PMC" or the "PSD" ' ?3 X( C" C9 m+ s- B% j/ J2 Z0 Z$ J
whatever cool term you can come up with this week.
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I work for a "Security" Company, and thats what I do, i
( a5 Q0 ]0 B7 G1 Y( r! Eprovide "security" for our clients. 9 `2 u+ f. e; i) N, F0 q- c2 O  c
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I only have one job here, and that is it.......Im not here to fight
% q% [+ \$ t) [$ j' U, U& L' _8 ya war............I did that already, in afghanistan and irag, with 7 T7 l& D1 H/ \( z3 p
the 82nd ABN..........then I was a combatant. if you feel like you
( s8 L9 K; `9 mare part of the "fight" or wanna be part of the fight.....Join the
  j( h- v* z/ }1 E9 \7 E% Z) o& p: lfreakin army! # D$ J& d0 O0 K6 [, Z
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So many people roll up and down Route Irish in their "hard" details,
" {0 f$ H6 f2 ?, g% y. I9 i" Dand i swear they think they are like a military unit....they got on * p" D4 w% t& P& a$ h6 }1 ]# t
DCU's......just about every thing that "General Jackson" in
9 c; c' K! _- G' Q1 x, |! k' E* l& pfayetteville nc sells these yahoo's have got strapped to them, they * ]* k& `& t( e4 N! c- @
have their guns out the windows,.....like what are you doing guy?
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8 c* n6 N, j! w' ]- |) N: Aare you invading a village I dont know about, are you gonna cordon - W9 f, t* R' P, Z* W) U4 Z& C7 m
off and search a village...........Um....No, your taking a paying
6 Q) s, C% o% i! M& ~2 rclint on a 5k ride to BIAP, which is about the only part of Iraq, . H9 c7 L. D, u1 @  T2 ^& `
other than the IZ that you will see! ' ?9 ^$ J2 h5 ~$ {! ^' @- |

: o) E: a, \* U& {9 sNow let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and
! a. s' O0 L- d* rall.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me / Y* s; M% W3 ?% q1 ]' k! b! Z
around safely and without getting shot, killed....etc......
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your solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up ; r& @$ N3 {4 C) W
with other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at
$ F* y4 \* h: n6 t5 d+ V, |- cthe the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I
6 S# @3 `$ Z  D6 M5 Tdare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our 7 z/ [5 J" l% A$ S2 [
coolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS
. L- g# j7 c8 T3 J0 L8 cand bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way, * l" v( d# [- c- j/ a
that guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like
2 u* l2 A5 O) x# o# g% d+ ]; dan Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im 8 X3 A8 U0 G2 B5 k, A3 k0 g
cool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this
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/ y4 |# t, n+ B' m4 }6 lBut your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior
: ^2 \9 z# \+ N3 p% \, j# \2 x$ Wspirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it   V7 R' o& i) I/ N4 {
up either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who " r6 ?" |2 L! |0 p: f, j
couldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that : G7 B9 t5 S- }2 [( z3 B6 t/ \
you were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher
, P5 {+ J2 f. I9 sthan high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator" % G! H5 }8 {+ L( }
whatever you are calling yourself today.
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my point is this........You as a private security contractor are
( d5 P- T! ^: L( rjust that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase
# Q2 Q  v3 l" e+ d1 yhim.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your
1 G) c- T# W6 ?2 B, Qjob is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out
; i# t& |- K1 ?# W2 v0 wand start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if
2 l  B$ @5 D8 }9 `8 f. ?# L/ sengaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa
" e6 Z  @' V5 j% q7 U0 s! bthere, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we
4 U9 V. V5 M8 R: [* Udo is defensive.
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3 Z/ o$ k: k+ x# e5 n' M. NHow many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of . G& y& L' {; |
inexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they 1 @9 F: S9 t( V" T: c
too have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how 0 j& X: A/ \* j9 l7 A$ V
many of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad 7 g( B& @0 W$ u8 ?. I; G9 R
what they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian.
7 |' M5 g3 `. q% H$ R3 l& R( G: v9 S
so because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers,
1 T$ n. X" P9 o& Pbecause I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem,
. G$ h5 Q. l" I4 g' D0 ^3 q+ oyet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these ! ^1 M4 G* R# x) P  v
companies? 4 J7 X7 U5 J3 f

1 j) A1 l* ~$ `anyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security 7 e4 y4 a4 u$ }- f! |
professional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem , J- v$ n+ D9 |- D4 E8 a  A- ?1 n
to grasp just what your job is!
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发表于 2005-8-17 22:40 | 只看该作者
给杀人的扣过另外顶帽子
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杀就杀嘛
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哪儿来这边么多名堂
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) S2 z5 ]0 W; h( u9 b8 m4 ]% a全部杀光光* R& R" u' X+ j$ X5 c& i# o

7 O+ |# J* D, M4 U3 ~1 T哈哈# H6 X- D) y% J
杀杀
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( [% r; T8 R- U+ \/ E8 x0 a  S' h他NND~~干!
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-17 22:45 | 只看该作者
你个猪头············我们的名声就是败在你这种死猪头身上了············干!!!!
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:03 | 只看该作者
说的也是( m! y2 H/ W1 e- V' C* D- O% o
现在在大家眼中,基本把承包商和特种部队划等号了
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:06 | 只看该作者
承包商应该是避免介入,而不是主动介入
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-17 23:12 | 只看该作者
壳壳了解的深刻啊······
% }1 n: g) j* D1 k; _0 q+ t不像胡子一样·······
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:24 | 只看该作者
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~
, k( l* W1 ]( a0 v偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:33 | 只看该作者
原帖由 居士 于 2005-8-17 23:24 发表( J* Q: g5 I* J( H# ]
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~0 V" h- v3 z- |% |
偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~
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干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:38 | 只看该作者
找个说法喈
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; U$ U: j0 l% e0 X# Q8 f: t杀就杀嘛
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又不是见不得人7 b' q) _( q4 \5 w/ L* m4 X7 c0 T# b& b

( F( S( j- w& z9 `8 A2 g7 h3 v这世上人比鬼多
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( f+ M- |8 M' r- i4 L2 ~多杀些
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:41 | 只看该作者
原帖由 potato_esu 于 2005-8-18 01:33 发表( ~1 k: Y0 Q* O+ T6 t3 I- p" F

- I: g0 `& B- D干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~

1 p8 a# G' b1 E7 _. T' V0 K干什么?承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶
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发表于 2005-8-18 02:48 | 只看该作者
那位能翻译一下啊~~~哦土不明白那英文是在说什么?2 k4 E) A) a3 G: y1 P/ D% q

/ Q% }9 O3 w: Z# S( Y不过我到觉得无所谓啊因为是工作,人吗总要讨生活的做什么都是一样的,原则上不鄙视任何工作,实际是还是很喜欢不劳而获!撤远了嘿嘿!~~~~~~~
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让我想起了这里《一个死刑犯的行刑失败》一文中的小老鼠,其实它只是想填饱肚子有什么错呢?人何尝又不是呢???
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! h$ @8 f, m0 Q; m: H对与错只是因为利益的不同而产生!其实什么都没有,真的是世上无一物啊。: ]7 d9 M8 P% Q$ ^3 B, [

2 w5 A+ _* u. m[ 本帖最后由 ksc 于 2005-8-18 02:49 编辑 ]
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发表于 2005-8-18 11:17 | 只看该作者

雷哥,你这帖子有中文版的么?

今时今日这样的服务还是不够di ~
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4 w; L: \; @7 @: L3 A电视都有双语广播啦~
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偶英语差~你原谅偶吧
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发表于 2005-8-18 11:38 | 只看该作者
e文实在不好,看得糊里糊涂的。雷哥有中文版的么?
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:07 | 只看该作者
原帖由 王杰 于 2005-8-18 01:41 发表( ^& z. m% \) P  o7 C

! G3 h# B) b: @干什么?承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶
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如果任务需要~呵呵~呵呵呵
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:13 | 只看该作者
翻译过来大概意思就是“我们不是士兵,我们是受薪去保护我们的客户的安全。”诸如此类
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:18 | 只看该作者
看着好像是行为守则之类的东西,用的口气好象老鸟对新人的教导
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-18 15:02 | 只看该作者
抱歉啊····没有中文的···大意就是D大和壳壳说的了····
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发表于 2005-8-18 16:14 | 只看该作者
来个中文的嘛
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发表于 2005-8-18 17:49 | 只看该作者
艰难阅读中……
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发表于 2005-8-18 18:23 | 只看该作者
翻译,翻译,最近英文水平下降了,又不想查字典,,,,,,
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发表于 2005-8-18 18:49 | 只看该作者
叫大家8要轻易使用武力,8要装骚发浪,要低调。全文的核心意思就素“安全第一”,怎么有点象《方世玉》里的点穴大师的口头禅?
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发表于 2005-8-18 21:36 | 只看该作者
那还要不要“以德服人”?
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-19 13:17 | 只看该作者
因为你带着枪在战争地区,但是这并不能使你成为一个格斗家
6 L- A! m: n0 _( P) g& b实际上你只是一个安全保护专家5 g* g% z: b3 O, Y8 {5 E+ r, ]
我工作与一个安全公司,我向我的客户提供安全服务" ~' T' n8 F, A& t+ c
我只是在这里有一份工作,我不是来打仗的,我在82空降师的时候就已经在2 J) S: Y( Q; K; p4 s
阿富汗和伊拉克打过仗了,假如你觉得你是战争的一部分,或者你想成为战争的一部分。
  C. @4 }+ B! `6 |6 n$ I1 e9 ?; i去当兵吧。% G- |7 u8 y2 l9 D6 @0 k8 c3 I# p
那么多人在为这个事情争论和迷惑,我发誓他们一定把自己想象成了军事连队9 C& B/ I$ P! ^  q* J
我不知道你是不是要去搜索村庄或者准备这样做,但是你只是客人5千块的酬劳! _, R! {* _3 B' p
来这里干活而已。
1 x# i* B: Y" t5 C" E- z  P1 M未完··········翻译的不好,让英语高手见笑了·········
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Now let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and $ K: e7 j9 [  z: X
all.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me
, ~( o- y$ N' j6 t; varound safely and without getting shot, killed....etc...... : h8 y, R* E9 z7 Q2 {: m

& g9 T& t. H% }/ ]( `your solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up
; E% s; e/ |7 p+ p* Fwith other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at
# q0 k, N) P0 d9 y3 _+ ]the the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I 7 U9 u/ G$ h0 s% l0 \
dare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our ( V3 b4 a2 X  r" X8 ]
coolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS 9 ~; t2 k& y) q0 s
and bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way,
2 D) a1 O* {0 S( \+ d+ C9 ?that guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like
5 g9 N+ {3 `* T% Q) oan Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im . L! z( B$ z4 ?0 N2 g
cool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this
# W0 k9 r" s' g$ J- K, y4 Gis war.
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But your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior & T' R; i/ V& K6 W
spirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it ( b# @" P4 E2 O0 |! ]( C
up either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who
9 @7 O/ P  d3 Q9 Rcouldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that   k+ C5 T! T0 {5 m
you were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher
$ n! F* o3 H6 e/ K0 Athan high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator" % m- c2 W* d2 N# @4 Y# F2 g1 f7 v
whatever you are calling yourself today. 8 t( O; F/ ?$ k  H1 r; z0 R2 @
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my point is this........You as a private security contractor are
1 R/ g  A3 ~. P6 Djust that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase
  }5 }9 b) L, d3 f: p1 l- Xhim.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your ' r+ h) a  D5 v$ @7 s
job is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out
$ X% L, F9 e, l4 g+ h3 dand start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if
0 X/ Z$ N/ O# B3 P' b( D7 c( ?. Oengaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa
4 @; W  o! W+ Ithere, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we ; R  O9 z, I+ q
do is defensive.
: U9 y, m# K' s; @8 F" Z* r6 _6 s! J  g( t6 w4 E% K
How many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of
+ X3 J& Y' i# E# t6 e' j  }" `# Qinexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they 0 k" J4 z% V( x7 q: J6 r# T+ H' [# p
too have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how
! }( D9 l% z! H- _2 xmany of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad
- ?$ J. r7 e# D: H6 `: wwhat they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian. * C) @/ t4 D- N  E! F( R% j
* Y. v: J( y$ x4 T
so because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers,
6 ~: M9 N$ o: S  s' K% M* Q) t+ xbecause I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem,
/ u7 D! @1 ]4 f9 g5 oyet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these
- A, M5 k& S0 ~8 U# h8 T" d( a2 Dcompanies?
+ s5 h# q* p3 W" k  J
6 A) P9 q1 o3 r% s: A) t6 \( lanyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security
5 {2 C/ k/ d2 a+ I" q0 l1 `professional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem ! p$ T/ f1 c+ e" O' D
to grasp just what your job is!
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:38 | 只看该作者
好吧,我就来个金山翻译版本……哈哈哈
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金山翻译版本已经删除……
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[ 本帖最后由 酷不理客 于 2005-8-19 16:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:46 | 只看该作者
楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:49 | 只看该作者
原帖由 commandchen 于 2005-8-19 16:46 发表
4 q( d: r- H' W  d1 Z/ M7 j( g楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.

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8 K0 Q; D' H. N开玩笑,金山快译2005专业版……
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:51 | 只看该作者
这种翻译拿出来要扣分
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:53 | 只看该作者
原帖由 金属外壳 于 2005-8-19 16:51 发表0 ]5 r1 |4 |3 ^& a0 T
这种翻译拿出来要扣分
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不是巴,老大,今天下午我可是被扣成饼了
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:55 | 只看该作者
删了,多一事不如少一事,闪阿
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