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发表于 2005-8-17 22:30 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
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4 T4 h5 e& Z" h" _" f+ {Just becuase you are carrying a gun in a war zone, dose not make you
# k0 g* B: A5 K& z9 ~$ `$ da combatant "Dude"
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In fact its that mind set that is gonna kill the "PMC" or the "PSD"
  |4 Q$ w7 q6 j7 c7 Pwhatever cool term you can come up with this week.
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4 O" H& R! z6 H" x2 k  }4 T5 tI work for a "Security" Company, and thats what I do, i ) e" ^- [7 s$ Y6 V9 ~8 E
provide "security" for our clients.
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I only have one job here, and that is it.......Im not here to fight
  I: l$ j* ]0 Oa war............I did that already, in afghanistan and irag, with 6 }8 [4 O6 ^3 F# J: E9 \4 a
the 82nd ABN..........then I was a combatant. if you feel like you   L7 q- s3 {5 |$ J1 c$ `! B
are part of the "fight" or wanna be part of the fight.....Join the 7 c' Q3 p3 _- Z! q; g$ F% z
freakin army! / v9 s' t( Q% m5 |

, p' k8 m: s. ?$ ?& l: _So many people roll up and down Route Irish in their "hard" details, 0 O* L/ Z5 Q: \& P8 F3 s
and i swear they think they are like a military unit....they got on 9 |) v8 o3 R, R5 ?
DCU's......just about every thing that "General Jackson" in
) O5 I1 O+ n' D1 b) G3 pfayetteville nc sells these yahoo's have got strapped to them, they # A; w, L: T# v* y( ^: }6 H
have their guns out the windows,.....like what are you doing guy? ' a" l: W3 D0 o" c
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are you invading a village I dont know about, are you gonna cordon & n# ]" C8 q8 R
off and search a village...........Um....No, your taking a paying
4 `( s7 Z, ]. L9 {" l6 m5 K& G2 q2 Eclint on a 5k ride to BIAP, which is about the only part of Iraq,
" J" T- a$ t+ A! e  E1 }" m. @other than the IZ that you will see!
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Now let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and 6 g% U7 L- E6 @5 Z" t/ @! j
all.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me 8 H: A) K: R+ }! ^3 d
around safely and without getting shot, killed....etc...... , x% }# U. c; m( _5 p" |5 _
+ [0 H: j+ q; e8 F0 c# j! L
your solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up
9 J+ C; j$ B+ D5 n5 M9 d2 v% ]/ gwith other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at
, K# Q1 P- w3 @# |# e5 }" Tthe the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I
% {& P# a) z: L+ h$ A3 Ldare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our 4 W+ g5 a! v3 m$ l2 `
coolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS 1 F& n% Y& M) K8 m  o
and bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way,
4 u9 L' e* E. \that guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like
; d/ D7 w5 G& j0 S) Tan Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im , ]/ V0 x  y! B; S! ^
cool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this 4 i& ]  Y. h' h! S( B
is war. 5 d+ q* G& M- u% C, J

" e- |+ G9 @! Y' k0 h- [But your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior
- @, G* T+ o# O, u( Espirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it
4 x& o1 w  A+ V7 f4 gup either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who : v; r7 ?; w; P& v& i0 u4 {
couldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that
' M% m2 Y2 i) q: f) y: k; Fyou were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher
" S" ~, f7 C1 i& hthan high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator" 3 D# C- z, l0 l/ P" I/ y
whatever you are calling yourself today. 7 j# K: i$ c# a) ^
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my point is this........You as a private security contractor are 0 F+ F9 S, A4 B/ n8 Y, F: \* E
just that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase
7 i  ]! y7 h+ U: _3 K) G: thim.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your
9 r' F2 U/ z1 c$ C" A$ ojob is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out
* e1 q8 f4 K$ J- ~and start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if
; J; [% E, H1 pengaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa . E1 P/ V' l  {
there, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we
# L+ s8 |/ k% s' G1 @! s6 ^do is defensive. 5 R  J# n. o- `% {

' b% H' T% w7 H- ~- IHow many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of
* N, m7 M" U; zinexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they
2 _; H" [& v% Z1 \" xtoo have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how : m7 H$ R/ `2 ]- B7 i
many of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad $ ^" g% a* Q" k( L$ b* i! T
what they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian.
. c8 o7 ^& t5 `* s! {( y8 N# F9 L; [9 C/ R; r) l* D
so because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers,
& W/ o3 Y- P( J3 p* wbecause I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem, / @2 ]6 X) [9 Q/ E- J
yet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these
6 ?, _) i, t9 C. Ycompanies?
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anyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security
6 {) v0 r, }* B9 cprofessional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem 1 A' I3 A1 ]; E. c: f( J
to grasp just what your job is!
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发表于 2005-8-17 22:40 | 只看该作者
给杀人的扣过另外顶帽子% K4 b* r# D6 i% M/ J" s. D

8 D6 S; e) \7 A5 a8 D杀就杀嘛
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哪儿来这边么多名堂) i% o: g; C( y
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全部杀光光
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哈哈
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他NND~~干!
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-17 22:45 | 只看该作者
你个猪头············我们的名声就是败在你这种死猪头身上了············干!!!!
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:03 | 只看该作者
说的也是
9 d9 e6 p( @% K$ x1 z6 w现在在大家眼中,基本把承包商和特种部队划等号了
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:06 | 只看该作者
承包商应该是避免介入,而不是主动介入
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-17 23:12 | 只看该作者
壳壳了解的深刻啊······
8 r; b* m" r3 F8 x9 f, x不像胡子一样·······
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:24 | 只看该作者
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~
3 s8 Z4 Y  c/ g$ k0 l: _. K; `4 e偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:33 | 只看该作者
原帖由 居士 于 2005-8-17 23:24 发表+ |6 Z- l4 \* ]$ O5 C6 J
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~
3 H2 t3 N2 b7 }" s8 H3 y偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~

1 a) _7 Z4 T. @2 A+ ^( P干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:38 | 只看该作者
找个说法喈( o5 c+ t- B0 ?$ L
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杀就杀嘛2 p3 Y" A9 N: d. d
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又不是见不得人  {  F' ?4 o  R. |5 k
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这世上人比鬼多4 u. @% F8 a8 S3 ?% i
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多杀些
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:41 | 只看该作者
原帖由 potato_esu 于 2005-8-18 01:33 发表; @" t' V, t: y* M$ `, p
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干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~

2 H0 T8 X" }& L干什么?承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶
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发表于 2005-8-18 02:48 | 只看该作者
那位能翻译一下啊~~~哦土不明白那英文是在说什么?- Z6 D( f+ M+ a0 ?

: y; _8 r  c6 S/ {* m9 C' O不过我到觉得无所谓啊因为是工作,人吗总要讨生活的做什么都是一样的,原则上不鄙视任何工作,实际是还是很喜欢不劳而获!撤远了嘿嘿!~~~~~~~
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& \8 D# E: r; i6 }让我想起了这里《一个死刑犯的行刑失败》一文中的小老鼠,其实它只是想填饱肚子有什么错呢?人何尝又不是呢???( B- P2 M5 e7 z) t- ?3 F
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对与错只是因为利益的不同而产生!其实什么都没有,真的是世上无一物啊。
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[ 本帖最后由 ksc 于 2005-8-18 02:49 编辑 ]
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发表于 2005-8-18 11:17 | 只看该作者

雷哥,你这帖子有中文版的么?

今时今日这样的服务还是不够di ~
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: L1 M0 k$ C4 S: J' B" A6 l电视都有双语广播啦~
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偶英语差~你原谅偶吧
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发表于 2005-8-18 11:38 | 只看该作者
e文实在不好,看得糊里糊涂的。雷哥有中文版的么?
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:07 | 只看该作者
原帖由 王杰 于 2005-8-18 01:41 发表/ ~& f5 G9 _% X; q

' k% @( D. @* d, `干什么?承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶
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如果任务需要~呵呵~呵呵呵
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:13 | 只看该作者
翻译过来大概意思就是“我们不是士兵,我们是受薪去保护我们的客户的安全。”诸如此类
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:18 | 只看该作者
看着好像是行为守则之类的东西,用的口气好象老鸟对新人的教导
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-18 15:02 | 只看该作者
抱歉啊····没有中文的···大意就是D大和壳壳说的了····
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发表于 2005-8-18 16:14 | 只看该作者
来个中文的嘛
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发表于 2005-8-18 17:49 | 只看该作者
艰难阅读中……
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发表于 2005-8-18 18:23 | 只看该作者
翻译,翻译,最近英文水平下降了,又不想查字典,,,,,,
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发表于 2005-8-18 18:49 | 只看该作者
叫大家8要轻易使用武力,8要装骚发浪,要低调。全文的核心意思就素“安全第一”,怎么有点象《方世玉》里的点穴大师的口头禅?
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发表于 2005-8-18 21:36 | 只看该作者
那还要不要“以德服人”?
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-19 13:17 | 只看该作者
因为你带着枪在战争地区,但是这并不能使你成为一个格斗家
2 D) K0 B* g/ p实际上你只是一个安全保护专家( g9 L- J- z& a6 h9 C$ l
我工作与一个安全公司,我向我的客户提供安全服务& g4 m) k" P7 }
我只是在这里有一份工作,我不是来打仗的,我在82空降师的时候就已经在* n7 j/ f! W. z$ D3 P! `# {2 O6 c
阿富汗和伊拉克打过仗了,假如你觉得你是战争的一部分,或者你想成为战争的一部分。
5 b7 c% q" c0 C2 k) ~去当兵吧。
3 b2 t6 m. {' V* h那么多人在为这个事情争论和迷惑,我发誓他们一定把自己想象成了军事连队+ |4 Y  s- N7 e, g
我不知道你是不是要去搜索村庄或者准备这样做,但是你只是客人5千块的酬劳
1 p7 H3 _, Q& w7 c( z/ l- x6 n来这里干活而已。
: A6 B; u8 S2 I; T: \4 A( T未完··········翻译的不好,让英语高手见笑了·········
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Now let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and
. e9 B$ ]; A7 q) ^4 L2 R: Z- ~# Rall.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me
+ J: _3 d1 R4 r- j% Raround safely and without getting shot, killed....etc...... . j! Q: e0 ]  X2 n9 C
* H, N* F4 k8 [" H) P% j6 L. A" G
your solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up
: R7 a% S1 ~7 m# u/ ?0 cwith other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at * ~* ^* v4 S6 a- Z4 F1 l; l
the the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I
) s& v! m- v) w. C1 _" ~dare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our
2 Q  G8 S- z: }coolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS ( r8 B( O. K' n0 L
and bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way, $ M  n& Y. L1 ?, V. e1 J
that guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like
" Y3 \* p! @( N( G5 o; ban Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im
( y( N! n, {+ r& pcool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this
1 L6 L* {+ L$ k5 lis war. $ k; b* _7 f, ?

6 F9 S" o& S; _4 Y) \# UBut your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior 7 V8 t  r1 V2 Y1 r! p) g4 B4 z2 x
spirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it
* E. B, \4 a, t$ \up either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who 9 j9 ?4 x( E( P1 ~2 o
couldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that
: ?( J0 Z7 Y6 a+ L3 i  O% Xyou were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher * c( Y7 H0 L& Y/ O: [7 F
than high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator"
; m& |  g/ }( |+ Cwhatever you are calling yourself today.
+ a, }( `7 Z+ \- J/ y
/ Z) i# U( m5 e8 \: Y; ^my point is this........You as a private security contractor are
9 l% M3 a! v" ~3 N! K! i% Rjust that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase % y- [' T* t9 |7 @9 E" L, U
him.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your & D. L- i: @/ z" Y1 h
job is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out % Q5 Z& D3 T' {
and start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if / }- @# ^9 U  v0 Y/ J
engaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa 8 ~" v0 X. p9 m0 ]3 `
there, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we
$ k* W' {% o/ c9 L* G8 p" }6 a& e" fdo is defensive.
: q" R4 V# ~9 B. F
8 U/ \- `5 G/ K4 UHow many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of * ^; h( E2 C0 w  G
inexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they ) S7 q9 N% `+ U1 O. ]
too have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how
; `' o* Z$ i4 ?% }& V9 C& H$ Bmany of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad ; O" q1 T2 u( O9 Z0 t: W
what they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian. * s% w" H1 ]# P1 [4 H

( G2 H! w3 T7 H" Eso because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers,
1 [! x+ z6 k( T; e* `. A; a+ vbecause I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem,
/ d# N9 i% E$ y; }2 X7 `yet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these 7 W( K) M& M2 c2 ?3 `/ e8 {
companies?
+ Y: a. [9 A) l) T% E, h& A4 j% R2 T. k6 Q' i
anyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security
. q4 N) D. X1 {4 }' y- wprofessional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem
2 H6 y- @5 ]; V' S7 w8 @3 t% yto grasp just what your job is!
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:38 | 只看该作者
好吧,我就来个金山翻译版本……哈哈哈% r+ f: Y$ J( J
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金山翻译版本已经删除……
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* z+ {/ s5 h& E+ Z) @$ l( k[ 本帖最后由 酷不理客 于 2005-8-19 16:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:46 | 只看该作者
楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:49 | 只看该作者
原帖由 commandchen 于 2005-8-19 16:46 发表
1 Q5 u. Y0 L) o楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.
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& t8 @' d4 W3 ^$ U  `开玩笑,金山快译2005专业版……
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:51 | 只看该作者
这种翻译拿出来要扣分
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:53 | 只看该作者
原帖由 金属外壳 于 2005-8-19 16:51 发表+ Q) {, R) s# c5 O4 g' [0 {
这种翻译拿出来要扣分

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/ U% d; s5 C. ^不是巴,老大,今天下午我可是被扣成饼了
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:55 | 只看该作者
删了,多一事不如少一事,闪阿
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