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发表于 2005-8-17 22:30 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
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0 Y& x$ s, z( d2 OJust becuase you are carrying a gun in a war zone, dose not make you
9 [# r' q8 j2 i" `9 ]a combatant "Dude"
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- q& z& r) w( E4 Q6 z* pIn fact its that mind set that is gonna kill the "PMC" or the "PSD" ( \/ G* f) a8 O7 U
whatever cool term you can come up with this week. + v( H% ]; T+ ?( F5 z, [6 T( Z
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I work for a "Security" Company, and thats what I do, i ) I" W5 Y( k# f, q8 ~
provide "security" for our clients. 8 D& u/ `* C9 c& N3 e- F2 ?

1 R  I( T. P" j. y2 z  mI only have one job here, and that is it.......Im not here to fight ( I! q/ I$ s' T5 I5 `) n
a war............I did that already, in afghanistan and irag, with
& ]9 J  m, k7 v8 x  H1 ^the 82nd ABN..........then I was a combatant. if you feel like you
: x& c  e8 U# z0 u, ^' vare part of the "fight" or wanna be part of the fight.....Join the . ^9 z* q% W$ o& Q  w
freakin army! 0 d+ b- i  }% f$ D! f6 v

/ H( p$ m" }0 iSo many people roll up and down Route Irish in their "hard" details, 8 K0 F/ k9 G& D, f; D( N3 E3 Z
and i swear they think they are like a military unit....they got on ; H8 t  F) d" z4 Q' h
DCU's......just about every thing that "General Jackson" in
3 z- w  I9 b. Ffayetteville nc sells these yahoo's have got strapped to them, they & |6 o, A, v- Q
have their guns out the windows,.....like what are you doing guy?
, |9 X6 Z+ X, N9 Q5 l- \; e- A$ l2 t9 b& W0 x% \$ R8 w  |6 n7 k/ X
are you invading a village I dont know about, are you gonna cordon 7 G3 n* q1 n* I8 `9 q/ \: Q2 V
off and search a village...........Um....No, your taking a paying 7 d- z& ~  W3 q) |  G
clint on a 5k ride to BIAP, which is about the only part of Iraq,
* m! Y4 H* e- [& A- I, fother than the IZ that you will see! # K% u  K4 a8 Y" B9 [. D2 t1 o

! E" g; }3 C3 S7 QNow let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and
7 w1 E% ?. @4 e. w. ~5 Dall.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me
) l, u, Z3 J! e) ^: a. Y( Caround safely and without getting shot, killed....etc......
, i/ _: H& w" p: j( a
3 a5 F( h8 J3 V4 _' Kyour solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up 6 x2 c' \9 i! U% @: {
with other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at 8 U5 U& d1 I  A) ]
the the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I 9 z. d+ d: A% f* b' f9 D3 [$ C4 `; C
dare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our % Q# F+ ?9 ?2 o7 E" I  j
coolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS + ?- ]6 ]! c% |
and bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way,
4 S# }1 X2 X2 h3 Uthat guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like
, y. \4 c2 w) t8 x# T  kan Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im
6 S+ G- ?$ Q  n* {+ Y1 p2 j2 Y2 _cool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this
. k$ Z$ Z7 L. w* Dis war. 5 e; u5 \5 Q- G9 g7 S1 \
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But your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior
) m, l5 r/ k5 k1 P2 x% u) ?% Fspirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it
0 R4 V! J1 P2 W' \up either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who 8 U& o+ `4 C4 b' r9 x1 D7 G
couldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that / ~) [9 h& T7 X* r3 \! @8 j$ r
you were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher
% p% H0 S! ]# S. v: m% L3 e- e6 Mthan high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator"
) v& d! E5 ?7 E: H1 d  jwhatever you are calling yourself today. ; g0 R% j/ _6 A1 ^
# v8 h  ?& ^1 u5 W. Z8 w* S
my point is this........You as a private security contractor are
4 k$ K/ C4 _2 m( ^5 g; Hjust that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase . K- P( d6 o5 @% u& N: k" u' w
him.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your
6 H# i+ q; j" a8 l6 Ujob is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out 5 ?( S" J  A, C) ]' N3 ^' Y3 f
and start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if 4 L6 Z5 J( o8 V- Y7 P) }, v, \
engaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa $ _4 s% J  a7 [* R( T8 s. p, V
there, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we 2 m& s9 `0 N; V! q' {* @
do is defensive. / W; S4 g3 v% @

+ i- }+ v; I2 ?" `2 cHow many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of
& j. d$ J: r% T: ainexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they
( M9 G3 X/ W% L6 D) ^too have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how
. v% U$ w# B9 i6 A( ~many of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad
' `  a$ A1 M  Y* N% N0 ]. i2 Hwhat they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian.
% s; u2 `/ r8 N' E4 c
6 l' m0 w: W# W( n' Fso because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers,
( ~/ x$ e5 n( O5 c3 {/ d5 `because I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem,   l+ _1 y, ?8 B& Y5 H5 `, v
yet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these
$ I! x, @/ y+ X3 }! t. X. W9 _; M2 bcompanies? 6 {! E- B3 v/ l5 e# u+ w8 C1 ^
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anyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security
) [; e( u! m' u+ i4 F9 h/ n! Oprofessional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem
( Y. Z( V: D1 lto grasp just what your job is!
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发表于 2005-8-17 22:40 | 只看该作者
给杀人的扣过另外顶帽子
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杀就杀嘛% T- o7 N4 ~8 P9 V  p2 `3 D

; m9 ~  I! H. ?7 O$ F' W1 p哪儿来这边么多名堂4 N( _( L& ]2 v$ k

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1 R8 S) |' J6 |+ x6 l* X全部杀光光
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哈哈
9 g8 t/ y0 D3 t4 O% {杀杀. {" |! `- ?0 j3 V
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他NND~~干!
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-17 22:45 | 只看该作者
你个猪头············我们的名声就是败在你这种死猪头身上了············干!!!!
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:03 | 只看该作者
说的也是5 D$ `* I7 r- q0 V/ l$ m1 O6 Q
现在在大家眼中,基本把承包商和特种部队划等号了
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:06 | 只看该作者
承包商应该是避免介入,而不是主动介入
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-17 23:12 | 只看该作者
壳壳了解的深刻啊······" N' o! R& A3 L+ a+ K
不像胡子一样·······
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:24 | 只看该作者
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~7 e( H4 `1 p  }' g, o4 M
偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:33 | 只看该作者
原帖由 居士 于 2005-8-17 23:24 发表7 K1 q6 X8 j& B, \
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~
) z' A% E! t% {偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~
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干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:38 | 只看该作者
找个说法喈; q. Z& K3 r) l4 g- o" h  h
`````
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6 n$ V  T% N( E; ~7 F# X7 a1 ]" S杀就杀嘛
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6 U$ P, F  n* N又不是见不得人
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5 j6 p6 |; w% y8 P* d2 o& d这世上人比鬼多. K# p9 m' z  A+ m

. y& j. Y3 j: v* N多杀些
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:41 | 只看该作者
原帖由 potato_esu 于 2005-8-18 01:33 发表, T/ C$ }: t- c' F* {! T

( T) d0 I) |) U" C% q干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~
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干什么?承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶
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发表于 2005-8-18 02:48 | 只看该作者
那位能翻译一下啊~~~哦土不明白那英文是在说什么?
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% C  c; r" y  B不过我到觉得无所谓啊因为是工作,人吗总要讨生活的做什么都是一样的,原则上不鄙视任何工作,实际是还是很喜欢不劳而获!撤远了嘿嘿!~~~~~~~
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让我想起了这里《一个死刑犯的行刑失败》一文中的小老鼠,其实它只是想填饱肚子有什么错呢?人何尝又不是呢???
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对与错只是因为利益的不同而产生!其实什么都没有,真的是世上无一物啊。
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* x' m1 p# i7 z[ 本帖最后由 ksc 于 2005-8-18 02:49 编辑 ]
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发表于 2005-8-18 11:17 | 只看该作者

雷哥,你这帖子有中文版的么?

今时今日这样的服务还是不够di ~8 _' r1 l5 o9 A- r8 a. V

  M1 B3 Y: N* z& k* k$ Z* x# ?电视都有双语广播啦~- i2 ~, `# O  {

1 _; ]. L5 u; M' g/ f7 d5 W, U偶英语差~你原谅偶吧
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发表于 2005-8-18 11:38 | 只看该作者
e文实在不好,看得糊里糊涂的。雷哥有中文版的么?
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:07 | 只看该作者
原帖由 王杰 于 2005-8-18 01:41 发表" v- c2 }* a" F# y# e5 d' G
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干什么?承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶

! g+ w$ s# w, b# D9 Y1 Z1 J如果任务需要~呵呵~呵呵呵
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:13 | 只看该作者
翻译过来大概意思就是“我们不是士兵,我们是受薪去保护我们的客户的安全。”诸如此类
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:18 | 只看该作者
看着好像是行为守则之类的东西,用的口气好象老鸟对新人的教导
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-18 15:02 | 只看该作者
抱歉啊····没有中文的···大意就是D大和壳壳说的了····
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发表于 2005-8-18 16:14 | 只看该作者
来个中文的嘛
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发表于 2005-8-18 17:49 | 只看该作者
艰难阅读中……
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发表于 2005-8-18 18:23 | 只看该作者
翻译,翻译,最近英文水平下降了,又不想查字典,,,,,,
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发表于 2005-8-18 18:49 | 只看该作者
叫大家8要轻易使用武力,8要装骚发浪,要低调。全文的核心意思就素“安全第一”,怎么有点象《方世玉》里的点穴大师的口头禅?
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发表于 2005-8-18 21:36 | 只看该作者
那还要不要“以德服人”?
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-19 13:17 | 只看该作者
因为你带着枪在战争地区,但是这并不能使你成为一个格斗家: ~* ~% A0 }. r; A* R
实际上你只是一个安全保护专家
! W! o$ Y, W! f0 F. V; o  Z* H  _我工作与一个安全公司,我向我的客户提供安全服务: e; F, {* t8 c3 B+ w& \! @8 Y
我只是在这里有一份工作,我不是来打仗的,我在82空降师的时候就已经在
  m1 Q1 N" l* u, k7 _) |) `阿富汗和伊拉克打过仗了,假如你觉得你是战争的一部分,或者你想成为战争的一部分。
5 d4 S( y) m% ^. A4 F# h. W3 k去当兵吧。. i2 A1 ]& d. E; H, p
那么多人在为这个事情争论和迷惑,我发誓他们一定把自己想象成了军事连队% _8 u' S  Q" r# C) E% z
我不知道你是不是要去搜索村庄或者准备这样做,但是你只是客人5千块的酬劳+ `! ~$ `( `) h2 T0 x  T8 ]
来这里干活而已。( l9 p: A! J4 g- l
未完··········翻译的不好,让英语高手见笑了·········$ [. ]+ t0 e4 w3 N8 Z; \
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Now let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and
! S) p  b+ e& o5 |. X1 ^6 }7 i$ Nall.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me
$ L1 N5 C! H% @: Saround safely and without getting shot, killed....etc......
; s5 ^4 n; a* J* m
: {4 S( _1 l: D8 Q) Q7 g" z5 s7 uyour solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up 1 F  m& E0 ?1 L* `. ?
with other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at - \  [5 C- @1 @- C9 F/ m
the the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I 1 _; [+ l/ {. {' r8 K
dare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our ) X& w. F2 ~8 X- K9 m
coolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS
9 M( q2 {2 Q' w) p0 G) ?and bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way,
/ B2 S) ?, Y3 b. s' ]that guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like ! g1 o! u# j, r, b) _) a
an Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im
3 v8 ?. ]6 i2 D6 R' r8 _; G. rcool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this : i* z7 f0 ?! Y4 x
is war. - c. f# y- b1 |6 f2 f1 ^  t- w* p
* h# {# J" ~1 R6 V# e
But your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior
4 X9 a1 X& `- R0 a/ e! W+ Cspirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it
+ x( c  N1 p7 Gup either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who
' l: P+ D- J5 v2 Y6 {! e+ h0 b$ u. [couldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that
( b* z1 s0 v+ u% X5 A* Ryou were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher
5 C. w) S  a" N' Q) m* ^  v* }than high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator"   a1 p, R/ H9 }3 s0 n! d
whatever you are calling yourself today. 1 Y  f+ W; K# ]2 Q$ L, J% W- N
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my point is this........You as a private security contractor are
. u* i+ b4 H. C, O8 v1 Ujust that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase
5 M0 L" w6 {8 r& zhim.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your . Y3 c! s2 T2 S5 S2 H4 w: ^
job is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out
( t6 D( C' m" w" Zand start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if + t. `+ L5 a6 G& F$ p/ a
engaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa
- T3 U. w- h6 H4 V( Gthere, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we 2 z& ]8 u5 V! ?1 P
do is defensive. ! o% j0 x2 g  j6 B# \6 g

) z4 z; x8 n6 BHow many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of
* ]/ P0 v7 h( ?& K; p- v) xinexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they 9 b$ A( x, A' \1 r5 Z+ M! U3 n
too have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how * [& T0 H( r. V3 l
many of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad 6 q, x: k( y- l; Q# o
what they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian. 6 y: r+ l+ w8 Z  Q8 ]' l" a8 h
6 U% w0 K; j! S/ x0 i
so because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers,
& k( s2 v  i) B5 f9 }$ Jbecause I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem,
; U9 a* l0 f+ P. _0 X% P( B% qyet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these ! `7 Z, m5 ]0 I6 m9 j$ T( |  g
companies? " U) Q  f0 w5 H
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anyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security + q4 m$ |/ x# ]% C- ]3 X
professional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem
% K# p5 @/ M! h8 b; r' Lto grasp just what your job is!
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:38 | 只看该作者
好吧,我就来个金山翻译版本……哈哈哈0 c# m0 [2 I# ]4 W. l  z  |2 y
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金山翻译版本已经删除……8 ~4 F4 j7 Z: p, j8 j" a5 _1 y' I& d

2 s- A6 b4 b/ D- s[ 本帖最后由 酷不理客 于 2005-8-19 16:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:46 | 只看该作者
楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:49 | 只看该作者
原帖由 commandchen 于 2005-8-19 16:46 发表
- I& t$ w2 o# w- J! Y3 S楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.

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; ~" E4 z3 J. L! D: f* [开玩笑,金山快译2005专业版……
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:51 | 只看该作者
这种翻译拿出来要扣分
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:53 | 只看该作者
原帖由 金属外壳 于 2005-8-19 16:51 发表
( P/ ^: E6 a  e0 }9 K/ O9 ?这种翻译拿出来要扣分

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不是巴,老大,今天下午我可是被扣成饼了
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:55 | 只看该作者
删了,多一事不如少一事,闪阿
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