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发表于 2005-8-17 22:30 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
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4 P& ]: p' B; fJust becuase you are carrying a gun in a war zone, dose not make you
6 M$ |) U8 i2 F3 Da combatant "Dude" 9 u$ c8 l4 x1 T3 ?) z, B4 q4 a! D' h

. F  b6 k6 Z" LIn fact its that mind set that is gonna kill the "PMC" or the "PSD" / `' |/ ]/ h9 T& [
whatever cool term you can come up with this week.   ~9 F8 I. Q% H3 b6 u, }, [

4 m2 E! ~0 X4 a% z  A/ [6 mI work for a "Security" Company, and thats what I do, i
7 m9 i% @4 |- [provide "security" for our clients. 3 x- [; Q( x  g% v8 J) M6 B

0 U6 i( d8 d1 g* kI only have one job here, and that is it.......Im not here to fight 8 ?" @3 ]" d7 G# O: d6 L
a war............I did that already, in afghanistan and irag, with
4 R' P! m& S/ \1 U8 athe 82nd ABN..........then I was a combatant. if you feel like you   M$ o8 K: {9 ?& k; ]
are part of the "fight" or wanna be part of the fight.....Join the 2 g" J) v( {: G7 p( Q% A
freakin army!
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0 a$ `" I. }6 Q# nSo many people roll up and down Route Irish in their "hard" details, 6 R" ~1 o0 k$ H1 j! ^8 e
and i swear they think they are like a military unit....they got on 9 d3 g" Q$ h( F, X1 g3 u
DCU's......just about every thing that "General Jackson" in 8 E4 K/ u$ G/ B- C6 d
fayetteville nc sells these yahoo's have got strapped to them, they % S; a+ N+ s4 S9 ?. a7 E) K
have their guns out the windows,.....like what are you doing guy?
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+ D" C6 L2 H) t) care you invading a village I dont know about, are you gonna cordon ( `" n) i  e0 R# p
off and search a village...........Um....No, your taking a paying # n" [5 K2 i& P
clint on a 5k ride to BIAP, which is about the only part of Iraq, " P* a) M5 M* A0 D& A( b. Z
other than the IZ that you will see!
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, P2 ]$ A  C* Y. }1 M: \- `Now let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and
8 Y9 v0 E* a% l; f! p3 G3 N: Gall.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me : x; F4 [; r9 G2 R
around safely and without getting shot, killed....etc...... : O- w- m0 `6 O" A: R- ]" [
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your solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up 0 ^: W: |' S/ ?
with other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at & l; R$ M; J  e; Q  H, c
the the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I : q1 {) ?0 i  K2 v) m
dare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our
# T; B1 U$ d, S) O( Hcoolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS
; O5 |/ p2 B6 B* d( P  V" e6 Tand bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way, - o* q* P+ U$ J) L0 {2 X
that guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like
% H" w& m9 b5 N6 \* D' Y; kan Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im , a) {) p! Y* y) c
cool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this 2 q; \. A: b0 l: O& f0 u9 Z+ C
is war. , Q+ U1 ]! R& {% O  M: e8 I

! A0 y/ G. g" i+ ^2 c. @4 \But your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior
& {+ V$ r" _$ {spirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it
" E) Y7 }' K! M1 ^9 Q* y4 K4 l2 bup either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who # z# Y0 x2 X0 g7 |' I; ]0 Z
couldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that 6 u1 o7 C" Q7 J! k/ c% ~
you were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher
3 S- A" m3 R' A& Fthan high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator" + V3 D) R( J$ x8 _% [/ ?( O
whatever you are calling yourself today. + R5 n" ^7 g* M5 `+ t+ K

: {) y/ P8 H: R; v* w# d: ^my point is this........You as a private security contractor are
/ ^1 S7 |# m+ |# k8 ?$ Qjust that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase
8 J9 a  H9 n' k9 c! Phim.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your 2 i0 ]- E' ^2 D* t8 Y/ E& s
job is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out
1 B1 k- x& H6 Z- Yand start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if / k3 c4 F% n7 _4 {4 k! {2 B7 N
engaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa " l- l( {: j" e1 i) j0 Y* u- h
there, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we
; e; D: o% g" W; |( Gdo is defensive. 3 F) T. R$ w; ]8 U5 ~

: |8 W% A- D! O+ Y. t5 @, M" IHow many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of : ]5 g" O5 u. I& H, {( O" F5 r
inexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they
, ]: S- H+ T0 _9 `2 atoo have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how
+ v5 |% x6 U. H( q+ H. L3 b# r  @$ dmany of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad
. ~) J+ C4 o% X: uwhat they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian.
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) R% g. e! [' Kso because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers,
- O  t: ^  ^0 P2 Pbecause I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem,
8 l) s: P; [7 o2 |/ |yet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these
4 E7 X1 f+ L6 X/ x- S/ g" ycompanies?
. \! G, h, M  X: |) ]7 R0 G7 w) P1 N' P
anyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security ! Z' h3 _- Q7 V; r3 C/ I
professional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem & o7 f- x; ?* G7 G/ J; W
to grasp just what your job is!
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发表于 2005-8-17 22:40 | 只看该作者
给杀人的扣过另外顶帽子+ C/ C$ l, @' `" a8 o6 B7 H3 I
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杀就杀嘛
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' u  `# R' f6 e/ j7 \哪儿来这边么多名堂
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全部杀光光7 }) ]0 S& i* o4 b1 g
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哈哈4 H" f) e: G) W) ~4 L6 R- W& g
杀杀6 u9 ?3 z" H) i0 o" L. N

( _* R7 \7 L7 `: ]+ F8 V他NND~~干!
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-17 22:45 | 只看该作者
你个猪头············我们的名声就是败在你这种死猪头身上了············干!!!!
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:03 | 只看该作者
说的也是
3 x, K4 o% R5 |  g: t' T) b现在在大家眼中,基本把承包商和特种部队划等号了
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:06 | 只看该作者
承包商应该是避免介入,而不是主动介入
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-17 23:12 | 只看该作者
壳壳了解的深刻啊······
4 N& E1 O; |0 k  G9 m不像胡子一样·······
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:24 | 只看该作者
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~
% p9 _  ~4 @- P8 n+ t8 E; h4 D  ^偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:33 | 只看该作者
原帖由 居士 于 2005-8-17 23:24 发表
: ]/ {4 O; _6 y$ b! \% C  l但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~$ }- P& r8 i) `. h4 H
偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~
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干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:38 | 只看该作者
找个说法喈  S( I, |" j% _; X0 c7 U" a
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杀就杀嘛
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又不是见不得人
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这世上人比鬼多5 E$ k& ~' o4 x5 ]

$ z6 t* k* u6 K( E0 ?多杀些
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:41 | 只看该作者
原帖由 potato_esu 于 2005-8-18 01:33 发表
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2 Q# O5 s# z, a+ D$ g& W5 B干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~
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干什么?承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶
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发表于 2005-8-18 02:48 | 只看该作者
那位能翻译一下啊~~~哦土不明白那英文是在说什么?4 ?. ]' e5 L3 `1 B( x- E# T
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不过我到觉得无所谓啊因为是工作,人吗总要讨生活的做什么都是一样的,原则上不鄙视任何工作,实际是还是很喜欢不劳而获!撤远了嘿嘿!~~~~~~~1 q8 b# z  k* p

$ l% I% s  z; j# j( F" P0 n9 c让我想起了这里《一个死刑犯的行刑失败》一文中的小老鼠,其实它只是想填饱肚子有什么错呢?人何尝又不是呢???1 l, ~7 Q( z  G4 O6 P' g
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对与错只是因为利益的不同而产生!其实什么都没有,真的是世上无一物啊。; |- z: Q* V. x' W+ A- D% \9 P5 W4 ]

& e) C* p- F5 m; ?' U# g[ 本帖最后由 ksc 于 2005-8-18 02:49 编辑 ]
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发表于 2005-8-18 11:17 | 只看该作者

雷哥,你这帖子有中文版的么?

今时今日这样的服务还是不够di ~. q/ t4 k$ ^0 t: L" I, O: Z0 O
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电视都有双语广播啦~
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+ G  s  q9 |; V$ n偶英语差~你原谅偶吧
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发表于 2005-8-18 11:38 | 只看该作者
e文实在不好,看得糊里糊涂的。雷哥有中文版的么?
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:07 | 只看该作者
原帖由 王杰 于 2005-8-18 01:41 发表
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干什么?承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶
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如果任务需要~呵呵~呵呵呵
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:13 | 只看该作者
翻译过来大概意思就是“我们不是士兵,我们是受薪去保护我们的客户的安全。”诸如此类
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:18 | 只看该作者
看着好像是行为守则之类的东西,用的口气好象老鸟对新人的教导
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-18 15:02 | 只看该作者
抱歉啊····没有中文的···大意就是D大和壳壳说的了····
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发表于 2005-8-18 16:14 | 只看该作者
来个中文的嘛
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发表于 2005-8-18 17:49 | 只看该作者
艰难阅读中……
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发表于 2005-8-18 18:23 | 只看该作者
翻译,翻译,最近英文水平下降了,又不想查字典,,,,,,
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发表于 2005-8-18 18:49 | 只看该作者
叫大家8要轻易使用武力,8要装骚发浪,要低调。全文的核心意思就素“安全第一”,怎么有点象《方世玉》里的点穴大师的口头禅?
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发表于 2005-8-18 21:36 | 只看该作者
那还要不要“以德服人”?
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-19 13:17 | 只看该作者
因为你带着枪在战争地区,但是这并不能使你成为一个格斗家' q% l/ D' L: m' m' W1 ~
实际上你只是一个安全保护专家
; b  y% C" G# h9 U我工作与一个安全公司,我向我的客户提供安全服务. f* E( t8 i: o0 ~  N
我只是在这里有一份工作,我不是来打仗的,我在82空降师的时候就已经在
3 v$ b2 Z' I7 M. _阿富汗和伊拉克打过仗了,假如你觉得你是战争的一部分,或者你想成为战争的一部分。5 M; g6 j/ A- m; L' C
去当兵吧。
+ D& M1 x* W7 g9 k7 r那么多人在为这个事情争论和迷惑,我发誓他们一定把自己想象成了军事连队
# Q" d; e- e" I: {1 `我不知道你是不是要去搜索村庄或者准备这样做,但是你只是客人5千块的酬劳
0 v" M6 x- j3 Q% e  e来这里干活而已。
7 X3 M3 c* ~% a3 u1 d未完··········翻译的不好,让英语高手见笑了·········2 K" s" a; _6 T9 R+ L5 c

0 H1 L8 g) D# P9 D) H% y( N+ QNow let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and
: l5 \) I' F) g  ~- L0 Vall.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me
' L: e2 C1 l- Q6 [around safely and without getting shot, killed....etc......   p/ O! T) t& ?/ |1 X, Z- \- N) f
- d# g; |! J$ k6 ?1 s6 t$ U/ v) z
your solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up ' d3 L; X. @8 C6 X9 y. @5 N. w* M
with other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at
6 {+ {' Z8 V2 E+ }3 uthe the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I
( F- y5 g9 {5 T) Edare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our
5 J# s3 X( _! z, d9 n; _coolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS
2 F. o: i* z8 }  t3 e& mand bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way, 2 ~: m( P& C$ s% q" V) g2 L0 |( C% p* M
that guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like / y9 A3 N1 U7 \' |& W. [
an Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im
! H( w) r" J% ^  I  w, vcool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this
) t  _; Z$ i8 `8 R1 |is war. ' D5 S& q+ A* @; ]6 @4 G

0 `- V0 \  p& A0 ~0 P9 _But your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior $ l  ]! n: I8 v
spirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it
5 E6 Y0 y. m& A" ?7 G3 ^up either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who
2 A3 Y; H# A/ H8 _/ Y* V6 v$ Ocouldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that
& z7 U8 L: H$ `' U0 `* t/ s6 [you were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher
2 [+ A- Q! s6 e. X' M; ^* Vthan high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator" 7 r6 Z" q- t& v0 i( r1 ~& ~. j8 z
whatever you are calling yourself today. 0 Z! W9 W; V  R4 i4 t4 j- w

8 s+ ]  p, }3 B+ \2 ?4 P. smy point is this........You as a private security contractor are
  N  V, m9 |2 w* ?/ Pjust that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase 3 c" i& }7 |0 p/ X0 L
him.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your
, c4 @4 f9 D! f! ^$ Vjob is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out : {4 e1 v+ B2 r5 \! j/ A
and start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if 0 w3 i  T; K( B" R
engaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa
/ ~4 T  K+ J3 jthere, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we
  J/ ^% ]1 D+ g0 F- hdo is defensive.
5 T# N3 ]- t/ B8 h; o  b+ B3 k2 @' T/ {7 U
How many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of
- i7 Q6 K# Z2 A- @8 i" p) Rinexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they 8 n3 @* T. A$ [3 B5 i
too have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how
5 a, u9 p$ u# v5 C( a( e1 smany of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad ; r& c, D: m4 I/ }* s6 p& L, E' m7 n3 c8 Y
what they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian. 9 [8 b$ l- ?; g# g1 y! U5 B. C
2 a1 n+ T: [2 A" O6 V0 y* T
so because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers, 3 X9 B$ v# M. k
because I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem, 0 s$ x$ h2 W( L6 B# H* ^8 W
yet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these
1 x  K' h2 K( n# `, c% _; Tcompanies?
2 |" z" _5 C( K$ z/ H
: x; z: b% b8 ^+ e- uanyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security 7 ~& w# s9 g0 E" y& J+ b" T
professional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem
2 ^1 F4 t( W9 s& r* N, X! n- ito grasp just what your job is!
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:38 | 只看该作者
好吧,我就来个金山翻译版本……哈哈哈
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金山翻译版本已经删除……0 H  f4 `5 w; G5 @8 _

" |. G2 p1 `; I: Z[ 本帖最后由 酷不理客 于 2005-8-19 16:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:46 | 只看该作者
楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:49 | 只看该作者
原帖由 commandchen 于 2005-8-19 16:46 发表
% s* w. f: D0 v4 ~& K# U. N: S楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.
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开玩笑,金山快译2005专业版……
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:51 | 只看该作者
这种翻译拿出来要扣分
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:53 | 只看该作者
原帖由 金属外壳 于 2005-8-19 16:51 发表
: T: C( `' |6 @! |4 ~! q这种翻译拿出来要扣分
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不是巴,老大,今天下午我可是被扣成饼了
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:55 | 只看该作者
删了,多一事不如少一事,闪阿
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