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发表于 2005-8-17 22:30 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
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7 F0 d- v* X5 _4 L5 BJust becuase you are carrying a gun in a war zone, dose not make you # T3 l' S. b) y3 {3 _" B
a combatant "Dude" 1 [; \4 P  {- z& t0 [

. j. A3 l, n- Y1 m+ F1 aIn fact its that mind set that is gonna kill the "PMC" or the "PSD" , \7 C2 [" }5 H" o
whatever cool term you can come up with this week.
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I work for a "Security" Company, and thats what I do, i $ W0 O! t8 [( v, H+ W( {
provide "security" for our clients.
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3 S% M& g  U. K1 r2 r5 ~: z& X4 GI only have one job here, and that is it.......Im not here to fight
6 Z6 K- b9 y% n7 ]3 G( j. ]a war............I did that already, in afghanistan and irag, with " _2 i  L2 \* @' y2 u, M* Y, C
the 82nd ABN..........then I was a combatant. if you feel like you
! d6 w* k4 V& y* E7 q0 y* Nare part of the "fight" or wanna be part of the fight.....Join the 1 D! {. f2 A, Y
freakin army!
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So many people roll up and down Route Irish in their "hard" details,
) [! D5 t- V5 X& d8 u0 dand i swear they think they are like a military unit....they got on
" p0 Z5 j, x/ X) O' dDCU's......just about every thing that "General Jackson" in 6 d- H# ?) b$ ?
fayetteville nc sells these yahoo's have got strapped to them, they
6 p9 `% ~4 R% Mhave their guns out the windows,.....like what are you doing guy?
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3 c2 a5 \1 d5 t, Rare you invading a village I dont know about, are you gonna cordon ) b$ @2 N9 i* l, |7 l$ K
off and search a village...........Um....No, your taking a paying
! {% {1 D- I) W& d% Z- Tclint on a 5k ride to BIAP, which is about the only part of Iraq, / o" N7 |' m% W; e7 ?
other than the IZ that you will see! - S! ?1 N2 N3 e, q/ B
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Now let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and & H$ e+ {8 x4 d5 y: I
all.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me
7 g; V, S5 e6 \+ q, T# Maround safely and without getting shot, killed....etc...... 6 t9 e6 }; t+ h, {" ?- k# ^

8 ?& B; ~' `0 a: A3 K; F2 B$ `4 o1 }your solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up
# \" d& N) E& k9 j. A5 |! nwith other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at & P, |" W) \* _
the the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I " w( e* f! Q4 `* ^
dare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our 3 N, K( e4 W+ f
coolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS
( y7 w6 k& o" n0 L2 o$ ^8 D7 Sand bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way,
9 e5 [  C: g7 i& j" _that guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like
" z' Y+ W9 S  d, f9 C" v* p6 pan Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im 0 b  D# ]2 z) T- [6 `
cool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this
4 p+ d1 L& a9 `0 \6 a6 Bis war. 4 j1 {( d6 f2 a) M5 V' O+ x

; N. e' o3 F9 x! ZBut your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior ( A9 s! I8 j' \+ W& A
spirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it & _/ U- o/ N, u6 B# g( W
up either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who + J5 F0 V9 X& g
couldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that 0 e2 X2 t; Q: G$ I! |
you were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher
" s; I/ f  q& ]* w# O( s  Y' Pthan high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator" 1 `" S1 M- c9 R& {# Q' f
whatever you are calling yourself today. ; `; ^5 R0 f1 @% h$ U/ k0 ^8 r

& @+ C. u2 e  R+ D) fmy point is this........You as a private security contractor are ' U$ ~' ^% c. E$ ^8 j( I' v
just that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase 1 h4 k. e! M9 o" r. D
him.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your
* n0 y# |2 X1 S; tjob is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out
/ _. l" f) L0 x6 ~7 jand start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if / q# e. m! M$ w+ C
engaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa
; q6 V9 A! y. S( T1 Tthere, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we : ^$ w+ p. x3 M8 A
do is defensive.
4 N- q9 T" j  r2 t$ ?6 q0 g* M
0 P& Q1 c, I/ E) N4 BHow many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of
; c+ t8 o4 e, f8 uinexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they ! [8 g+ U8 ~& l# _7 n9 e1 W$ }
too have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how
8 F# ^& k  a+ Umany of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad
  M, j! {% G! g9 Dwhat they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian. # \' _( K6 i( P, w- o! \/ a7 k
( n/ V3 D. X! O7 L$ X! d7 @" G  l
so because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers, " [' N2 _, `0 u- }0 Q6 }
because I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem,
, k0 _0 c# ~% V7 K# C+ T3 byet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these
& m; O- p6 t, a6 |& u3 @companies?
4 r+ P7 R. D3 a, G7 t4 }) K4 s: i4 P6 ~& z1 d6 G( q) N0 g5 N
anyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security
$ B1 }; @1 C1 s1 \( \1 Q3 yprofessional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem + \8 y; \$ ]2 d& Y
to grasp just what your job is!
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发表于 2005-8-17 22:40 | 只看该作者
给杀人的扣过另外顶帽子
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1 {8 N7 H0 A/ n/ Z- |2 t杀就杀嘛
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哪儿来这边么多名堂: W8 x, U7 U$ i5 T% y+ s

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全部杀光光0 d  j2 Q# ?2 W7 s: r  k

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2 b: n0 r! \" i  \8 ~) v( B# V杀杀
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他NND~~干!
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-17 22:45 | 只看该作者
你个猪头············我们的名声就是败在你这种死猪头身上了············干!!!!
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:03 | 只看该作者
说的也是+ u& |3 H' B, C; j1 R2 E
现在在大家眼中,基本把承包商和特种部队划等号了
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:06 | 只看该作者
承包商应该是避免介入,而不是主动介入
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-17 23:12 | 只看该作者
壳壳了解的深刻啊······
* D6 E" t' A& R0 U2 ^" T/ I1 N% O不像胡子一样·······
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:24 | 只看该作者
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~
2 T2 Q. Z0 Y0 F4 z& t) S; Z8 m偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:33 | 只看该作者
原帖由 居士 于 2005-8-17 23:24 发表2 a7 _' e0 }% [9 I
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~
* ^9 i# u  y) k1 o* y9 t: g+ G偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~

' K2 G1 U& X$ ^4 k+ }' c# ~7 B干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:38 | 只看该作者
找个说法喈
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杀就杀嘛
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又不是见不得人
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这世上人比鬼多
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1 M8 X& |" C! _9 l3 s多杀些
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:41 | 只看该作者
原帖由 potato_esu 于 2005-8-18 01:33 发表1 q( ]0 _! Y# `& W5 q) o. @, f
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干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~
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干什么?承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶
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发表于 2005-8-18 02:48 | 只看该作者
那位能翻译一下啊~~~哦土不明白那英文是在说什么?
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0 T3 D, U* N7 B; {不过我到觉得无所谓啊因为是工作,人吗总要讨生活的做什么都是一样的,原则上不鄙视任何工作,实际是还是很喜欢不劳而获!撤远了嘿嘿!~~~~~~~# a( I& `- D1 g
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让我想起了这里《一个死刑犯的行刑失败》一文中的小老鼠,其实它只是想填饱肚子有什么错呢?人何尝又不是呢???
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对与错只是因为利益的不同而产生!其实什么都没有,真的是世上无一物啊。1 @( M8 k& k+ |5 p/ ?2 F

. E; }  z2 M8 J5 V& I! Q/ L" H. T[ 本帖最后由 ksc 于 2005-8-18 02:49 编辑 ]
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发表于 2005-8-18 11:17 | 只看该作者

雷哥,你这帖子有中文版的么?

今时今日这样的服务还是不够di ~% V: G& [: n3 X2 G

" F7 E8 a9 b, a" n  G3 p电视都有双语广播啦~
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偶英语差~你原谅偶吧
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发表于 2005-8-18 11:38 | 只看该作者
e文实在不好,看得糊里糊涂的。雷哥有中文版的么?
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:07 | 只看该作者
原帖由 王杰 于 2005-8-18 01:41 发表! v" |, o. N( Q8 e5 f( l
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干什么?承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶
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如果任务需要~呵呵~呵呵呵
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:13 | 只看该作者
翻译过来大概意思就是“我们不是士兵,我们是受薪去保护我们的客户的安全。”诸如此类
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:18 | 只看该作者
看着好像是行为守则之类的东西,用的口气好象老鸟对新人的教导
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-18 15:02 | 只看该作者
抱歉啊····没有中文的···大意就是D大和壳壳说的了····
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发表于 2005-8-18 16:14 | 只看该作者
来个中文的嘛
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发表于 2005-8-18 17:49 | 只看该作者
艰难阅读中……
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发表于 2005-8-18 18:23 | 只看该作者
翻译,翻译,最近英文水平下降了,又不想查字典,,,,,,
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发表于 2005-8-18 18:49 | 只看该作者
叫大家8要轻易使用武力,8要装骚发浪,要低调。全文的核心意思就素“安全第一”,怎么有点象《方世玉》里的点穴大师的口头禅?
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发表于 2005-8-18 21:36 | 只看该作者
那还要不要“以德服人”?
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-19 13:17 | 只看该作者
因为你带着枪在战争地区,但是这并不能使你成为一个格斗家
# E5 N: {8 ~* _实际上你只是一个安全保护专家
6 ^+ G6 K" f: Y7 H- _, W我工作与一个安全公司,我向我的客户提供安全服务
& E2 E' }( c) U我只是在这里有一份工作,我不是来打仗的,我在82空降师的时候就已经在; ?+ L- b+ `8 D
阿富汗和伊拉克打过仗了,假如你觉得你是战争的一部分,或者你想成为战争的一部分。
: j+ D! L7 n3 |2 s去当兵吧。) j- O7 ~* ^, K6 \3 a
那么多人在为这个事情争论和迷惑,我发誓他们一定把自己想象成了军事连队
! Q9 v" O+ x3 I' a) N: T我不知道你是不是要去搜索村庄或者准备这样做,但是你只是客人5千块的酬劳) l( V1 m' [$ D6 P/ c' O
来这里干活而已。% B6 j+ q8 _/ W! `
未完··········翻译的不好,让英语高手见笑了·········
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Now let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and ' F1 \' I# p: O! R0 y
all.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me % o; v% E$ y! q+ t# d1 p. M
around safely and without getting shot, killed....etc...... 1 b: }) Y/ s) Z
, x# ?  _2 ^1 f: I2 q2 m
your solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up ! c+ J0 v. q; F! \. E5 N. N
with other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at   @7 ]% ~# Z- J. @  K0 ^+ d
the the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I
' p0 u! a! ^3 T( y. Z* zdare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our 0 P  R% l, v- R7 V. X( _1 p; e+ f2 l
coolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS & i1 F+ V/ ]$ c. y! r
and bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way, + G. Z  k6 w5 v: F( D6 \
that guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like 6 L5 e- T6 U5 G6 b6 ]
an Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im
4 M. E% u$ f- u/ ^7 U) Y' qcool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this 0 H5 k0 R/ M9 I. F+ J9 _
is war.
" ?. I' m7 F- N% `! ]& M9 ]& e+ X5 S! ~" g) ]
But your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior / F0 z* Q) u7 Q# _7 i  o1 k
spirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it & w: `# \9 f$ a9 D; G7 [8 l4 z7 c
up either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who
$ T, W* _2 g$ J! U" U' Icouldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that * u, O: z6 |1 W
you were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher $ C. B0 A% v- A9 a2 z! t! `, S
than high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator"
5 _- q2 a, h# {: Pwhatever you are calling yourself today.
5 m! C. S9 O3 v* h; P: @$ |6 C  U5 V0 v; C$ P" N% Q2 I' E8 p, ^
my point is this........You as a private security contractor are / `& O" b/ s2 n# A
just that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase 8 s/ B4 E8 n! B2 y
him.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your " r1 q( `0 [/ ~! B0 ]
job is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out # V/ L3 t' m: g/ a- T  I" Y: p5 T
and start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if & f& @0 u5 O* {6 u1 E
engaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa
. p4 c! Z* V$ B! {there, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we 3 c! G' L9 w* {  j# h
do is defensive.
% r: Y. H! R# `, @0 H+ }9 @! _; _. K# M* Q
How many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of ! }7 e9 Y5 j  _' b* D/ `
inexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they % k7 t8 F1 M# }  e
too have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how
  K. D1 p) `8 U' K+ {. E% Smany of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad 6 E1 ~" K6 C. r% E
what they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian.
2 q$ _) Z# y  c
  A9 k+ w4 _3 E  _2 A8 P# Qso because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers, 7 Y  `% G- \% M) W0 n! _! _
because I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem,
" l/ [/ ~/ L, v5 S$ F" _( a# ~yet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these : |+ a6 [; z9 L
companies? 7 B0 [# K* T2 x1 B0 g
3 V3 v$ `' t" B0 |8 U
anyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security
) ~; e: L- |5 F/ zprofessional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem   Z% s% c* a1 b- O5 }
to grasp just what your job is!
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:38 | 只看该作者
好吧,我就来个金山翻译版本……哈哈哈1 f, S. K6 X) s* c" z& c

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金山翻译版本已经删除……) M, k& o8 C# R) s. g+ {

" C: f- \9 i& I; v4 r# Y[ 本帖最后由 酷不理客 于 2005-8-19 16:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:46 | 只看该作者
楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:49 | 只看该作者
原帖由 commandchen 于 2005-8-19 16:46 发表' k$ Q- J; W+ H2 C. K
楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.
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! h/ x* X7 }, {/ V' x5 V: V2 R开玩笑,金山快译2005专业版……
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:51 | 只看该作者
这种翻译拿出来要扣分
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:53 | 只看该作者
原帖由 金属外壳 于 2005-8-19 16:51 发表9 x" M) X4 q9 |% R9 c# \
这种翻译拿出来要扣分
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不是巴,老大,今天下午我可是被扣成饼了
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:55 | 只看该作者
删了,多一事不如少一事,闪阿
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