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发表于 2005-8-17 22:30 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
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7 ]' {! U5 f! u% aJust becuase you are carrying a gun in a war zone, dose not make you
" J6 e9 G5 B9 C6 W* c+ la combatant "Dude" 6 c, g7 o. e. I2 F9 p8 T( u

3 o$ y( Q$ F' G( G* ZIn fact its that mind set that is gonna kill the "PMC" or the "PSD" 2 V  z' b. X3 [- e
whatever cool term you can come up with this week.
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I work for a "Security" Company, and thats what I do, i
' ?$ _3 {, v+ `provide "security" for our clients. . \4 j& Q" O! O0 `( D
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I only have one job here, and that is it.......Im not here to fight
0 ~/ e" x8 C$ Z0 I9 W, D: s  i8 da war............I did that already, in afghanistan and irag, with " f* v, C* p6 d  Z( X1 `6 S
the 82nd ABN..........then I was a combatant. if you feel like you 5 u& b6 r) Q# X* A
are part of the "fight" or wanna be part of the fight.....Join the
' ~2 ]' b# ?. J, Ufreakin army!
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So many people roll up and down Route Irish in their "hard" details,
; B7 C( j2 N3 i$ h; [* iand i swear they think they are like a military unit....they got on
4 |& V: ^3 i4 kDCU's......just about every thing that "General Jackson" in
5 P' X' Z) |' Y2 G: w! x6 _fayetteville nc sells these yahoo's have got strapped to them, they 3 v9 K3 i% n0 c; a/ `2 U
have their guns out the windows,.....like what are you doing guy? % X2 N, i, d- `. n, X
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are you invading a village I dont know about, are you gonna cordon
- `3 C/ Z1 A# y7 C$ {off and search a village...........Um....No, your taking a paying 9 O6 `+ f) @' w
clint on a 5k ride to BIAP, which is about the only part of Iraq, 6 ?9 Z' A* Y1 c- q, N. M' T: U7 b
other than the IZ that you will see!
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Now let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and 3 \8 L; R! r* q
all.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me + W- k0 q/ r3 i& e
around safely and without getting shot, killed....etc...... 0 b# ~% ?1 z* z5 m0 r( \5 ]1 T3 W
% E& I7 O' s: A% p9 ]2 P' L0 P5 b
your solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up
1 D" l6 Z* }  ]4 U# Ewith other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at 3 n3 Z6 t7 R, n. o0 r' k9 B8 R
the the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I 1 q1 e/ p4 Y& b' O2 u$ C! w
dare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our ! z! ~" U2 }0 o, D7 s* K2 [
coolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS 0 x5 _$ j3 {( a0 _* Q: x/ N8 i/ |
and bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way, 5 N9 T3 ^/ Y7 X2 u+ V4 H1 a
that guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like 7 `$ J0 C: u7 r2 i# b( o
an Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im
  @: K0 Y4 |0 |0 L4 k  @cool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this 6 ^: J0 A# Q" F6 \
is war. # b' T% H1 k3 `+ \
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But your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior % |% r' @8 a5 C$ i
spirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it
9 ^4 L$ Z  i% E* ]6 S8 Nup either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who
. w8 U% q6 E0 h, e' Rcouldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that
2 N; m+ D+ x9 a/ ?1 V* n5 P# C/ a6 d5 pyou were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher
9 h& c: f2 C3 {- Hthan high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator" 4 h( D  n! S- j! q
whatever you are calling yourself today.
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; _1 Y1 _# w. D8 u1 X" nmy point is this........You as a private security contractor are
2 @) T. H; @2 ljust that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase # h' s2 J2 ~! M1 ~
him.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your + O0 N5 c" L3 H1 X! b# b# p
job is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out " m7 x$ T  a& P5 W
and start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if ! O; ?4 w+ q( ~2 ^7 a' ]7 N3 Y
engaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa
% L! y0 z8 F4 ?1 ithere, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we
' T7 Z: |) d( ?0 ?' Hdo is defensive.
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How many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of
; \8 C. d, y. B1 Q5 K$ v- Hinexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they
  X, D) u" Z9 L5 \too have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how $ B; E* U4 @3 h# B: ~! X1 v
many of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad
  W' {8 K' g* Swhat they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian. . G# M2 d0 D, S: \

+ K9 C/ c- ~7 X1 ]* uso because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers, # C, b6 u* f. \9 v( O
because I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem,
) p6 ^9 _0 M5 {/ t/ F# c. N* ]yet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these
; _3 T+ x. I$ X& ~companies? 1 w0 v( S' T8 k) Z( J* k( ?

' X' u' R) B" ranyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security
3 b/ c( @. x" N( _+ lprofessional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem
( X5 p8 K8 D  y! c( lto grasp just what your job is!
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发表于 2005-8-17 22:40 | 只看该作者
给杀人的扣过另外顶帽子9 F8 |6 w: D! B

. L/ i/ @# g8 v" m9 z杀就杀嘛
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哪儿来这边么多名堂3 c4 A0 b% I* r/ g" @# ?* l
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5 f# X: T$ j  D* `全部杀光光$ u* k! }4 C$ Y: X. G" ^; c& {% B
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哈哈1 D- N% L1 `& _6 U$ `+ y! ~
杀杀/ r+ X: ]9 Y8 o& v% k
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他NND~~干!
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-17 22:45 | 只看该作者
你个猪头············我们的名声就是败在你这种死猪头身上了············干!!!!
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:03 | 只看该作者
说的也是
( X$ B% a& m) d4 N# Q% L3 u现在在大家眼中,基本把承包商和特种部队划等号了
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:06 | 只看该作者
承包商应该是避免介入,而不是主动介入
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-17 23:12 | 只看该作者
壳壳了解的深刻啊······' e1 c( V8 _  l; C
不像胡子一样·······
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:24 | 只看该作者
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~
% O0 X- h2 R. W偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:33 | 只看该作者
原帖由 居士 于 2005-8-17 23:24 发表* B9 u% B9 }5 a! X, Q  H
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~4 U$ r) u4 L  x( c' m* c
偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~

( o& U7 X- [' Y干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:38 | 只看该作者
找个说法喈
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杀就杀嘛
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又不是见不得人$ y9 r& ?& d" Q
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这世上人比鬼多
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) n& O5 T' p7 u+ C$ i' O# i多杀些
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:41 | 只看该作者
原帖由 potato_esu 于 2005-8-18 01:33 发表4 f% W5 L' ~8 r' |# q

: b  U4 Q5 K/ C! x, [* o干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~

6 e& A. l+ f, X干什么?承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶
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发表于 2005-8-18 02:48 | 只看该作者
那位能翻译一下啊~~~哦土不明白那英文是在说什么?
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. E$ @9 C  U* [* A, c不过我到觉得无所谓啊因为是工作,人吗总要讨生活的做什么都是一样的,原则上不鄙视任何工作,实际是还是很喜欢不劳而获!撤远了嘿嘿!~~~~~~~% Z# a" h8 \) M! k/ W) J# X

4 q$ h* _$ p$ B; Q让我想起了这里《一个死刑犯的行刑失败》一文中的小老鼠,其实它只是想填饱肚子有什么错呢?人何尝又不是呢???
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对与错只是因为利益的不同而产生!其实什么都没有,真的是世上无一物啊。
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5 L& |3 o! }# @* X9 C" _9 ~[ 本帖最后由 ksc 于 2005-8-18 02:49 编辑 ]
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发表于 2005-8-18 11:17 | 只看该作者

雷哥,你这帖子有中文版的么?

今时今日这样的服务还是不够di ~& N  v1 s# k; F

& _7 g) k" K0 l* s2 z电视都有双语广播啦~
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偶英语差~你原谅偶吧
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发表于 2005-8-18 11:38 | 只看该作者
e文实在不好,看得糊里糊涂的。雷哥有中文版的么?
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:07 | 只看该作者
原帖由 王杰 于 2005-8-18 01:41 发表
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0 d: K$ y+ S) I' b干什么?承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶
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如果任务需要~呵呵~呵呵呵
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:13 | 只看该作者
翻译过来大概意思就是“我们不是士兵,我们是受薪去保护我们的客户的安全。”诸如此类
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:18 | 只看该作者
看着好像是行为守则之类的东西,用的口气好象老鸟对新人的教导
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-18 15:02 | 只看该作者
抱歉啊····没有中文的···大意就是D大和壳壳说的了····
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发表于 2005-8-18 16:14 | 只看该作者
来个中文的嘛
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发表于 2005-8-18 17:49 | 只看该作者
艰难阅读中……
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发表于 2005-8-18 18:23 | 只看该作者
翻译,翻译,最近英文水平下降了,又不想查字典,,,,,,
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发表于 2005-8-18 18:49 | 只看该作者
叫大家8要轻易使用武力,8要装骚发浪,要低调。全文的核心意思就素“安全第一”,怎么有点象《方世玉》里的点穴大师的口头禅?
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发表于 2005-8-18 21:36 | 只看该作者
那还要不要“以德服人”?
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-19 13:17 | 只看该作者
因为你带着枪在战争地区,但是这并不能使你成为一个格斗家
( K7 {$ G- ]" Z# f/ C( G/ v实际上你只是一个安全保护专家3 l2 K9 v8 Y8 S3 L
我工作与一个安全公司,我向我的客户提供安全服务
( l3 x" G+ a, ?- t& E' L9 |我只是在这里有一份工作,我不是来打仗的,我在82空降师的时候就已经在
& x/ j3 o7 r$ ]阿富汗和伊拉克打过仗了,假如你觉得你是战争的一部分,或者你想成为战争的一部分。
% [- F+ I) M0 c, `3 U' J3 d6 k* E0 q去当兵吧。
7 ]- |6 F' ?% O' V! g那么多人在为这个事情争论和迷惑,我发誓他们一定把自己想象成了军事连队8 {+ ?5 e+ D0 i$ H
我不知道你是不是要去搜索村庄或者准备这样做,但是你只是客人5千块的酬劳) `5 d, c  m/ j; J9 j
来这里干活而已。3 h3 M. C6 x" g- h# G- O0 L
未完··········翻译的不好,让英语高手见笑了·········
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2 y) J* Q' |: KNow let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and
9 O: Z. x7 u3 Oall.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me , R1 s# w. a7 E' D, |7 I
around safely and without getting shot, killed....etc...... # Q) [/ |# {3 e, L+ N' k
- ]0 L- N, x4 r8 U0 ]% ~
your solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up . P% @% H9 @- L, o/ q
with other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at 5 {! T! i& h! u+ d) D1 b9 R
the the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I
! t3 l+ K" W' {, D' G: L6 U( }0 Edare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our 0 e) E& ~2 c3 d! r$ q* f
coolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS
) @1 @- p2 j+ \! Iand bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way,
! Z3 j7 V, e- r4 H/ N" c: b& Kthat guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like
. [: P6 m5 F4 X9 f! van Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im
" I, G$ t3 K% ]: D9 Ncool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this
3 R9 X* j9 e& _( o4 }5 eis war. 1 \& n- t) ]) S+ w& v" t
& |) s. h- b4 N( R
But your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior
) ]7 V" B6 X  F* tspirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it
! l7 r! d3 @# e/ X+ V8 N7 ^up either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who
0 n/ O+ r# Q; p" H& _+ qcouldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that
, i: \( r& D% {8 {you were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher 6 g# I3 t! G) [& V/ B7 w  x
than high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator"
7 [# `' }1 t- mwhatever you are calling yourself today. 0 N. Q- X; e- q% L' ?
/ J* _+ G6 I: q: t2 I# g
my point is this........You as a private security contractor are
! T. o1 o2 a0 `# u5 ]. |just that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase
$ P/ t$ C$ f% Vhim.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your 8 U% t- A* {! n# V( J
job is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out
4 G# ^/ \/ j, I9 q: ^+ iand start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if 8 f; M! y3 g* p* t0 t9 H
engaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa / F6 }: c$ l+ B% Z
there, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we
% ?5 X* h1 B: c5 K0 H% ^6 n7 ddo is defensive. 6 W- E; y) x3 G0 t; w& c

: w# B* F( V: |; ~, n1 t6 T  @How many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of - w9 x3 D! E, q1 D6 q
inexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they 4 X( F( g% S0 h
too have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how * D: T3 V* R& U  Y/ D
many of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad : e2 k) @- o% l; I) x5 ^
what they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian. 3 j4 ~8 M; ~2 Z" v" ]( z- U
/ r# r) _" B, O! V
so because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers, / Q/ ^- `6 ]  }+ p$ ~. w2 |
because I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem,
5 ]) D+ @5 |2 C6 N% m! b+ Cyet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these * M9 y( D  H& ?; y% O  }$ E6 F
companies?
5 |6 f; _' ^- N* v( B
. ?! O& k: Q. i/ e& Eanyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security
& w4 x; L6 d( c0 [! ^- ]! kprofessional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem
' L, l3 N' [" \5 ^/ c* kto grasp just what your job is!
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:38 | 只看该作者
好吧,我就来个金山翻译版本……哈哈哈: g7 o: w6 j5 }$ f! S% h$ x- |
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金山翻译版本已经删除……
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  q! s  f/ B/ P  H[ 本帖最后由 酷不理客 于 2005-8-19 16:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:46 | 只看该作者
楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:49 | 只看该作者
原帖由 commandchen 于 2005-8-19 16:46 发表& e$ r9 V/ Y8 G; F- i( z  Q
楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.

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$ Q0 W0 D4 d: D* I$ x' Z9 {开玩笑,金山快译2005专业版……
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:51 | 只看该作者
这种翻译拿出来要扣分
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:53 | 只看该作者
原帖由 金属外壳 于 2005-8-19 16:51 发表, e2 [: V1 {( U% v2 @* c8 `
这种翻译拿出来要扣分

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不是巴,老大,今天下午我可是被扣成饼了
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:55 | 只看该作者
删了,多一事不如少一事,闪阿
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