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发表于 2005-8-17 22:30 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
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: ]; J9 C) }2 N. f0 F% rJust becuase you are carrying a gun in a war zone, dose not make you
$ O6 G: @( W/ }. Oa combatant "Dude" / _+ e8 H4 l0 M. I+ e! W- O$ T% e
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In fact its that mind set that is gonna kill the "PMC" or the "PSD"
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& u: j. f. I0 |. @6 A( @I work for a "Security" Company, and thats what I do, i
! w; [. P; }, C7 g$ F9 H$ bprovide "security" for our clients.
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I only have one job here, and that is it.......Im not here to fight
  O/ _. ~& i& K- Q' u, Z( Ea war............I did that already, in afghanistan and irag, with
5 M$ u& I$ g) s& Ethe 82nd ABN..........then I was a combatant. if you feel like you
" o  _& c" X$ @. R& F+ U/ V5 care part of the "fight" or wanna be part of the fight.....Join the
8 L0 |) h0 b5 Kfreakin army! + s! C! F2 z5 M- {. m" {: I: Y
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So many people roll up and down Route Irish in their "hard" details,
) G2 A& ]' g/ Gand i swear they think they are like a military unit....they got on + e% e2 c1 X* Q1 {5 @% Y; K( D
DCU's......just about every thing that "General Jackson" in
. Q+ E/ Q9 L) ~3 c2 Z$ \8 D' z: Qfayetteville nc sells these yahoo's have got strapped to them, they & ~+ A9 W9 }/ N$ c: V, H
have their guns out the windows,.....like what are you doing guy?
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are you invading a village I dont know about, are you gonna cordon
5 p: T  O+ t, a% m) foff and search a village...........Um....No, your taking a paying
8 ^: j/ x% w& w! x% ~+ @& @clint on a 5k ride to BIAP, which is about the only part of Iraq, % R* Q  f3 l% P2 v8 K
other than the IZ that you will see!
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5 j5 G! a0 n1 {8 h! e: }Now let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and
1 N7 P+ }0 l% w$ xall.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me & Y" {' l# H5 M, M
around safely and without getting shot, killed....etc...... # F5 G3 _) Q, ?9 |3 q. Y. V

/ X& p% j" ]1 f3 R" {4 g3 Cyour solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up $ D. H' l+ n9 C7 `7 R
with other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at : p+ u2 T" O: i' e' v2 D# T+ M& A
the the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I
0 b/ }8 K0 k! S# ?; V+ Hdare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our + ^$ y3 [8 b/ `- T/ `! X9 Y
coolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS
( k$ e' g" J! n! [& Z" D7 tand bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way, 6 C  n' `9 p3 v2 V. ^+ O
that guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like
9 E( P& d2 f6 R. T& pan Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im / v4 v) u  J( Z3 o* I6 S& U
cool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this
* L, e* {% }/ N" x* I9 Qis war. % A) j* o- w( j- L0 @! H

' k# l2 P" p. S- H, t' s" Z/ S# s4 EBut your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior   [/ V. u" N. y% R
spirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it
7 q% L$ r* c( v, |4 D' [8 V2 e4 lup either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who , z+ {. I( y5 M
couldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that 2 S# j* ^8 Q3 [  q  m8 S. `# h  O3 s
you were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher + k' S/ u# }$ B2 b% z3 w2 B0 H
than high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator" ( s8 W# r$ r( q8 h  z4 y
whatever you are calling yourself today. % B0 t9 U7 [& e
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my point is this........You as a private security contractor are 4 r9 e" W$ g5 m7 M6 q2 O0 z
just that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase
0 b, E* j- X& z, E$ ~& uhim.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your
8 I+ {# ?) {/ b2 X. }8 bjob is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out
6 {. W; `' H1 yand start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if ' V& g& W3 |! Z7 s! U9 F0 N% E
engaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa 1 S9 {1 ^( `+ C, a* |9 q8 U3 y
there, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we ! \: q7 h" W5 |! z7 F% Z' j/ Y
do is defensive.
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5 z; q. V# h/ Q* v7 f4 I3 rHow many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of 7 v2 L: ^* N# a) d$ |
inexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they 1 I& C' w0 W! \
too have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how
/ x% J) |2 M( k7 D2 [many of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad - I0 B: @! c# @3 I5 F
what they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian.
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  l" l3 F$ W2 b" `5 W, l& Kso because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers, $ G, `( I! \$ t
because I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem, 5 `! Y- P& i/ E' Q2 i  p% S8 q3 ?
yet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these
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anyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security 7 R1 B+ M6 t) U3 A9 r
professional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem 9 l; ~1 s% N& @5 Q! {# ?
to grasp just what your job is!
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发表于 2005-8-17 22:40 | 只看该作者
给杀人的扣过另外顶帽子" ~' Y4 x" H* I' T. d

" ?' c' S/ w! @杀就杀嘛
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3 |4 S2 a: p5 M- a哪儿来这边么多名堂
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全部杀光光
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哈哈
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他NND~~干!
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-17 22:45 | 只看该作者
你个猪头············我们的名声就是败在你这种死猪头身上了············干!!!!
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:03 | 只看该作者
说的也是
+ {* b+ e& d% P4 K# C现在在大家眼中,基本把承包商和特种部队划等号了
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:06 | 只看该作者
承包商应该是避免介入,而不是主动介入
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-17 23:12 | 只看该作者
壳壳了解的深刻啊······
% p# c. g& G% Q, Z& x9 e不像胡子一样·······
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:24 | 只看该作者
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~2 _9 o8 T$ R- s
偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:33 | 只看该作者
原帖由 居士 于 2005-8-17 23:24 发表: d# K- L7 ]5 l4 o: F( U7 L( u  y- F
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~
6 U6 c3 ^9 ^6 W* C$ k偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~
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干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:38 | 只看该作者
找个说法喈
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  ?. ^- @8 d2 X3 i; j' K杀就杀嘛
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又不是见不得人; r/ `$ j. D3 L4 ]
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这世上人比鬼多
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+ a  s4 C+ C7 {7 @% `. N多杀些
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:41 | 只看该作者
原帖由 potato_esu 于 2005-8-18 01:33 发表
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* P9 {) a9 y& F& ^干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~
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干什么?承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶
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发表于 2005-8-18 02:48 | 只看该作者
那位能翻译一下啊~~~哦土不明白那英文是在说什么?5 e# V) `8 P% W) o4 x/ n  ?" X

* ^: c% v: e/ m8 D. T不过我到觉得无所谓啊因为是工作,人吗总要讨生活的做什么都是一样的,原则上不鄙视任何工作,实际是还是很喜欢不劳而获!撤远了嘿嘿!~~~~~~~9 v$ `4 ?. ^5 ]2 V7 W) I! H! W
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让我想起了这里《一个死刑犯的行刑失败》一文中的小老鼠,其实它只是想填饱肚子有什么错呢?人何尝又不是呢???
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: t# ]. @2 m: g: Q0 H8 c  {- o8 {对与错只是因为利益的不同而产生!其实什么都没有,真的是世上无一物啊。: ]% s; X- ]! P/ j1 V( c: \4 D
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[ 本帖最后由 ksc 于 2005-8-18 02:49 编辑 ]
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发表于 2005-8-18 11:17 | 只看该作者

雷哥,你这帖子有中文版的么?

今时今日这样的服务还是不够di ~/ q& n% l8 A! [
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电视都有双语广播啦~
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偶英语差~你原谅偶吧
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发表于 2005-8-18 11:38 | 只看该作者
e文实在不好,看得糊里糊涂的。雷哥有中文版的么?
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:07 | 只看该作者
原帖由 王杰 于 2005-8-18 01:41 发表
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' H. ]9 I0 d8 [4 b7 f& }' v干什么?承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶

6 T' L# z+ D# n# ~如果任务需要~呵呵~呵呵呵
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:13 | 只看该作者
翻译过来大概意思就是“我们不是士兵,我们是受薪去保护我们的客户的安全。”诸如此类
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:18 | 只看该作者
看着好像是行为守则之类的东西,用的口气好象老鸟对新人的教导
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-18 15:02 | 只看该作者
抱歉啊····没有中文的···大意就是D大和壳壳说的了····
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发表于 2005-8-18 16:14 | 只看该作者
来个中文的嘛
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发表于 2005-8-18 17:49 | 只看该作者
艰难阅读中……
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发表于 2005-8-18 18:23 | 只看该作者
翻译,翻译,最近英文水平下降了,又不想查字典,,,,,,
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发表于 2005-8-18 18:49 | 只看该作者
叫大家8要轻易使用武力,8要装骚发浪,要低调。全文的核心意思就素“安全第一”,怎么有点象《方世玉》里的点穴大师的口头禅?
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发表于 2005-8-18 21:36 | 只看该作者
那还要不要“以德服人”?
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-19 13:17 | 只看该作者
因为你带着枪在战争地区,但是这并不能使你成为一个格斗家! j/ U) D  h$ I" y/ @
实际上你只是一个安全保护专家
1 N% u2 k) O& Z+ E- U4 v我工作与一个安全公司,我向我的客户提供安全服务
8 r9 `0 W) M$ b$ v% w/ O我只是在这里有一份工作,我不是来打仗的,我在82空降师的时候就已经在
! N- @; X- Y1 ^) }# x阿富汗和伊拉克打过仗了,假如你觉得你是战争的一部分,或者你想成为战争的一部分。
+ q1 P: r; q5 C, a& }  C去当兵吧。7 |* ^8 N# s# W  n  W
那么多人在为这个事情争论和迷惑,我发誓他们一定把自己想象成了军事连队: O6 Y) z; {0 _6 u4 @
我不知道你是不是要去搜索村庄或者准备这样做,但是你只是客人5千块的酬劳/ w+ I/ l3 ^5 C2 F% U: n
来这里干活而已。
& }! f/ Q& D. v0 [/ U4 N" a( E$ s未完··········翻译的不好,让英语高手见笑了·········
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Now let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and - ]9 I4 P5 y+ w
all.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me
2 m  X0 Q1 Y! h/ a7 z) A; Taround safely and without getting shot, killed....etc...... ! A9 c. k2 `; v) |. Y% b

3 t6 j5 s1 o! r6 n4 N6 z# Uyour solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up
# W# ~8 n# {* a6 _( r8 p) i7 N5 [with other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at ! A7 D! X5 S; I, n
the the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I
6 {5 n9 @) X% z/ N- H8 F" {" l0 ?dare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our
8 U& r# B: j! n2 `0 s( p: Lcoolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS
4 P" o, j7 l5 S% ], T2 ]1 g" cand bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way, + A4 ]3 V1 K  Y7 j  A( `
that guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like
* ]  {6 r  k0 e% qan Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im ' Q" o# e6 F/ D6 z$ v: \9 z( K6 M% v9 Q
cool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this
" k0 q) |1 i- g1 [) h5 p5 z1 Eis war.
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But your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior
, _9 R7 Y! r- k! q' n$ `' Dspirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it
; p8 q1 v2 `0 a. d+ S2 K& `6 xup either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who
5 r' x% A8 s, a, ^0 m3 acouldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that + P, t8 ]( K! M# g9 C+ t- D, n
you were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher $ R1 z/ y% w3 b# e+ q) I
than high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator" 4 ^. r/ K5 \: c: @9 v+ p# r3 \
whatever you are calling yourself today.
1 |# O4 ]' B% k; {' ~3 `+ A) T8 u3 [7 s7 Z8 L2 A
my point is this........You as a private security contractor are
) Q' p1 _- w/ q7 H3 o% Ejust that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase
& q; u" W( f9 r) v; W  l1 @him.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your ! d/ R0 a( m( N2 b
job is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out - ^7 _" K8 L/ [4 {7 B
and start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if
* b, y( d2 U4 O  r) d3 b( ?engaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa 6 k9 t& x$ Z9 W
there, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we - y& k. l) E7 \+ `* d) G' b9 w
do is defensive.
3 n. \' z' e" u# x  a2 ^7 d. f5 ^- [) E( E
How many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of
  F5 Q) n3 H8 v6 q6 g( \inexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they 0 d3 {& j1 o! B
too have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how % H* J0 C+ ^( K5 q# {0 v' ~
many of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad : V9 p7 @7 V) S3 K4 a0 }. V& _
what they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian.
1 Z" y7 V# a9 Z. @( b: E+ [5 D8 T6 }" L4 @4 K+ D+ p
so because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers, 2 w) X% e2 W4 U
because I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem, / Y$ L; ?! y  h4 d1 A
yet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these 0 o5 S8 k, Z# O5 l
companies? 9 ^6 z7 B+ n* e& M

) a& X6 Y; J* a$ }3 canyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security ; s" W2 {+ r; s! v. i% \
professional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem
5 R+ A7 h. L6 N+ g7 j. N1 Cto grasp just what your job is!
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:38 | 只看该作者
好吧,我就来个金山翻译版本……哈哈哈' g" S3 f9 E/ _. V# w
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, r; H3 j1 C4 B! m0 ?! R+ O金山翻译版本已经删除……$ ^' n/ w8 y0 Q% ]2 p8 [

' x! W/ a; b3 c[ 本帖最后由 酷不理客 于 2005-8-19 16:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:46 | 只看该作者
楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:49 | 只看该作者
原帖由 commandchen 于 2005-8-19 16:46 发表
* i" t) d0 y3 G楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.

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开玩笑,金山快译2005专业版……
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:51 | 只看该作者
这种翻译拿出来要扣分
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:53 | 只看该作者
原帖由 金属外壳 于 2005-8-19 16:51 发表! x: x# @! _  d& a' y! I
这种翻译拿出来要扣分
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不是巴,老大,今天下午我可是被扣成饼了
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:55 | 只看该作者
删了,多一事不如少一事,闪阿
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