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发表于 2005-8-17 22:30 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
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Just becuase you are carrying a gun in a war zone, dose not make you
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In fact its that mind set that is gonna kill the "PMC" or the "PSD" : [# z/ a5 e( @0 G! m8 K+ L
whatever cool term you can come up with this week.   L" q3 ~* u4 {2 W6 U! q$ j8 ~! D
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I work for a "Security" Company, and thats what I do, i ' `3 [* g+ M5 V- q; w& R0 Q
provide "security" for our clients. 0 `/ W4 E; ^2 F1 k/ e# T! T" B
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I only have one job here, and that is it.......Im not here to fight
' h" o( Z/ A8 A; g$ Ca war............I did that already, in afghanistan and irag, with
7 O; }. Q' L% cthe 82nd ABN..........then I was a combatant. if you feel like you
) F5 x$ L# k+ N8 `# A- }1 sare part of the "fight" or wanna be part of the fight.....Join the ( w6 z4 E& D/ j( [
freakin army!
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) ~$ W9 ~* o3 C7 {1 w; H0 NSo many people roll up and down Route Irish in their "hard" details, : n) s/ P4 N* S4 y9 N( q6 r
and i swear they think they are like a military unit....they got on
6 o+ q  t5 j3 E$ y. ~DCU's......just about every thing that "General Jackson" in 9 m. i9 E: e! e4 U! H, ~
fayetteville nc sells these yahoo's have got strapped to them, they
/ l9 N# A+ t  Z4 |4 c$ D. ~1 Thave their guns out the windows,.....like what are you doing guy? " D8 f6 J$ S: a+ `2 s
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are you invading a village I dont know about, are you gonna cordon
/ v+ W1 l, c+ _- g+ q0 Coff and search a village...........Um....No, your taking a paying
: ~) e2 f4 B5 Tclint on a 5k ride to BIAP, which is about the only part of Iraq,
4 A1 _5 |% A% b6 z& D0 p3 u0 l4 Oother than the IZ that you will see! # R* u8 F% o& I5 g+ ^, G9 q

, ^9 A; ]2 U& ?% t( UNow let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and / E1 L6 p' W; d: h; p
all.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me
9 M# s4 }" s4 L& F( a2 W# faround safely and without getting shot, killed....etc......
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your solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up ; F$ y( v( q1 `- a! n4 S7 t
with other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at
5 }& I0 c% v/ f$ B# I# Kthe the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I
; h5 N9 @4 [+ r! W, Sdare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our ( P* ?4 c1 e( |% t' x% K9 n' ~
coolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS
/ y. Y5 i0 ^' E+ iand bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way,
$ f/ G5 P0 Q" |/ |0 r. B$ Kthat guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like
3 r* p$ p3 c8 z8 ]/ ]an Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im 2 y  [  J9 F9 @6 [
cool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this ) s8 {( @' u! c5 x$ |
is war. / C. ~4 u. D; l+ [# @
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But your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior
$ i; E5 J. Z' J- D' Z, }. Wspirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it 5 Q& c  n( N. D) b: ^
up either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who
" ^- J4 a7 {! k2 R2 Gcouldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that . l. ^% O: [0 q3 F/ W; U
you were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher
4 J) J. O+ @0 h: Vthan high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator" ; G( u% X2 R# v
whatever you are calling yourself today. # w# a5 x1 }+ w' `/ c, D
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my point is this........You as a private security contractor are
2 c8 M: x* O6 p- V# p) K  {5 z7 K3 ~just that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase
* V, D+ Y2 ?7 g, Dhim.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your # D, N6 i7 {' B/ r
job is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out
, \+ {6 `. c9 I4 vand start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if 6 `+ m, v( r  L) |( U4 n/ ^1 G! A
engaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa 2 C8 L' X( D, R+ [2 E) G2 Y
there, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we ( ~2 d! D; v: x/ p! p' B
do is defensive. ) m0 Q, ?1 Q" @; w( \2 l7 w9 H0 s
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How many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of + n  J- e! g4 N/ ?7 K' P
inexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they
' `# u! X, `1 X4 [  Vtoo have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how 3 T# m3 K; D9 X+ f
many of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad 1 g- O2 }! \0 ~3 W$ r
what they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian.
: ^$ R$ Q2 x9 v' O' p. Q, j1 R$ l; L
so because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers, 9 U4 @8 M! c3 [
because I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem,
3 O+ N* S! s) x0 k  {yet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these
7 Q  o' s& e  h9 i1 X) Qcompanies? . k# J# Y3 M! Z; ~2 r7 w, g% Y1 R

7 |. x7 Z9 A/ ~. x& ianyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security ) C- b3 I! g( K$ k
professional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem
  w5 j( b' a# b) Lto grasp just what your job is!
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发表于 2005-8-17 22:40 | 只看该作者
给杀人的扣过另外顶帽子# c, |- A" I/ f7 d4 S5 u

! w  Z/ r. O7 S$ h/ H/ A" ?+ ]杀就杀嘛& D  }" Q$ ~/ ]: P
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哪儿来这边么多名堂) J& [' Z9 B8 K6 U/ O
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全部杀光光, Y( D. [' h4 z) W1 i
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哈哈" B/ |5 R8 x  _" B2 R/ K2 Y, L1 D0 o
杀杀
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他NND~~干!
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-17 22:45 | 只看该作者
你个猪头············我们的名声就是败在你这种死猪头身上了············干!!!!
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:03 | 只看该作者
说的也是# H& y, @6 }  `! r
现在在大家眼中,基本把承包商和特种部队划等号了
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:06 | 只看该作者
承包商应该是避免介入,而不是主动介入
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-17 23:12 | 只看该作者
壳壳了解的深刻啊······
$ j& ?) I& l0 f( }不像胡子一样·······
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:24 | 只看该作者
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~+ T2 E$ r+ W+ @* F8 w8 W
偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:33 | 只看该作者
原帖由 居士 于 2005-8-17 23:24 发表% N2 q' O* R  y0 B5 I: `
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~
! p" h" [; w$ C+ t5 _- U! K' S' T9 e偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~
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干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:38 | 只看该作者
找个说法喈
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杀就杀嘛
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& B; `4 \6 v  B) a' u+ |又不是见不得人
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8 c' A8 r7 l, n1 ^$ x* A& g这世上人比鬼多
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, S  n( K4 z  f( p* Z7 E0 L( y多杀些
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:41 | 只看该作者
原帖由 potato_esu 于 2005-8-18 01:33 发表/ ?& E) e2 j. `
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干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~
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干什么?承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶
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发表于 2005-8-18 02:48 | 只看该作者
那位能翻译一下啊~~~哦土不明白那英文是在说什么?! V' X# p1 p+ u: r+ e1 q
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不过我到觉得无所谓啊因为是工作,人吗总要讨生活的做什么都是一样的,原则上不鄙视任何工作,实际是还是很喜欢不劳而获!撤远了嘿嘿!~~~~~~~$ |7 }3 E$ t+ P

/ M  g. t0 T2 t  m" i# g. A8 j! R$ I! A, F让我想起了这里《一个死刑犯的行刑失败》一文中的小老鼠,其实它只是想填饱肚子有什么错呢?人何尝又不是呢???" Q- ^) g* Y! N( @

. `5 s* E2 L0 A" N) z" }' f9 w对与错只是因为利益的不同而产生!其实什么都没有,真的是世上无一物啊。
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[ 本帖最后由 ksc 于 2005-8-18 02:49 编辑 ]
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发表于 2005-8-18 11:17 | 只看该作者

雷哥,你这帖子有中文版的么?

今时今日这样的服务还是不够di ~
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' U( j& T9 d& J, t$ j- ]& F电视都有双语广播啦~4 O" W* }3 R- x$ n
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偶英语差~你原谅偶吧
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发表于 2005-8-18 11:38 | 只看该作者
e文实在不好,看得糊里糊涂的。雷哥有中文版的么?
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:07 | 只看该作者
原帖由 王杰 于 2005-8-18 01:41 发表3 z* Q* }1 m0 F+ G" P
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干什么?承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶
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如果任务需要~呵呵~呵呵呵
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:13 | 只看该作者
翻译过来大概意思就是“我们不是士兵,我们是受薪去保护我们的客户的安全。”诸如此类
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:18 | 只看该作者
看着好像是行为守则之类的东西,用的口气好象老鸟对新人的教导
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-18 15:02 | 只看该作者
抱歉啊····没有中文的···大意就是D大和壳壳说的了····
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发表于 2005-8-18 16:14 | 只看该作者
来个中文的嘛
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发表于 2005-8-18 17:49 | 只看该作者
艰难阅读中……
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发表于 2005-8-18 18:23 | 只看该作者
翻译,翻译,最近英文水平下降了,又不想查字典,,,,,,
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发表于 2005-8-18 18:49 | 只看该作者
叫大家8要轻易使用武力,8要装骚发浪,要低调。全文的核心意思就素“安全第一”,怎么有点象《方世玉》里的点穴大师的口头禅?
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发表于 2005-8-18 21:36 | 只看该作者
那还要不要“以德服人”?
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-19 13:17 | 只看该作者
因为你带着枪在战争地区,但是这并不能使你成为一个格斗家
4 y. P+ I6 L$ p实际上你只是一个安全保护专家" e: h; S, `/ D
我工作与一个安全公司,我向我的客户提供安全服务
( W! v) z5 F3 M我只是在这里有一份工作,我不是来打仗的,我在82空降师的时候就已经在
$ U  E( a  C- i# k% t5 q, @# d" A7 T: I阿富汗和伊拉克打过仗了,假如你觉得你是战争的一部分,或者你想成为战争的一部分。3 C9 B2 G/ {$ n; A
去当兵吧。! W' G- B' {3 U1 F! l
那么多人在为这个事情争论和迷惑,我发誓他们一定把自己想象成了军事连队
7 V- p) l, u$ c# I4 \: c我不知道你是不是要去搜索村庄或者准备这样做,但是你只是客人5千块的酬劳
5 i, d2 [/ ~0 m8 y来这里干活而已。# j& e; j! Y$ X+ u' h* G2 Q9 x2 T$ o
未完··········翻译的不好,让英语高手见笑了·········
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Now let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and
9 Y- l; ^8 F% `all.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me
! _- t$ c2 Q( {0 u; r6 xaround safely and without getting shot, killed....etc......
2 ]3 S7 J4 l/ j' U+ u- ?) O/ `* Z+ ~. q* T0 L
your solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up
5 O! R; a' Y0 b! V% H; {! F  fwith other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at
" o: I8 I, S# }! Z; \* J9 Z4 {1 ithe the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I
/ S7 _% V) \+ s% Fdare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our
/ u) }  W. ?8 m, t- E# i! vcoolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS
: N5 [( O- e' F2 r4 r/ ]+ yand bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way, : t6 r& N1 @* Q  h
that guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like
: O* p0 t: q8 N# G; tan Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im
" E- n5 g; G6 Tcool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this ' e+ l/ s8 s! H3 a) r
is war.
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: T6 f2 J9 w, {5 U# CBut your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior
* `2 Y0 H0 x/ ^9 G  tspirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it ) e. T( f* ~+ c1 ]5 i
up either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who
& {* Z$ b0 x# [7 |" B9 vcouldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that
& Y2 b4 y5 a2 n0 wyou were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher
. m! ^2 ?& O5 m0 M/ w! Fthan high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator" % y, [5 O# F% o
whatever you are calling yourself today.
8 g' J* H$ o/ Z8 T' |: t6 `; t: B/ x# n" W# _
my point is this........You as a private security contractor are
; H& X5 D3 @7 X7 W, T$ ?) _just that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase 8 f# Q7 P8 |& l- K
him.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your
) y' F5 k/ }9 L/ e% m7 L& Z/ @4 qjob is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out * [4 b$ m- g8 F& f: m; I
and start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if
( H" t7 E6 h6 {engaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa % c0 l; D$ N% V, C
there, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we
2 }! o1 w& x+ O! Ddo is defensive.
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How many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of 5 V: Q+ y* f) j8 F
inexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they
8 V0 ?9 h! P' w! x: ytoo have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how
7 g, _2 z' m  V. Fmany of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad ! ^+ c4 E$ R$ S$ F' Y9 _
what they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian. : e& n2 M# U% J
$ B& [7 K$ l. J# U/ R; \9 e
so because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers,
& M3 T, R4 r$ ]% L" s" sbecause I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem,
' O+ e1 t% P1 j6 F8 ^8 e6 lyet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these - e( d6 F/ Z+ u7 `4 n1 @
companies?
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, q1 A: }5 u  b! h3 h& c3 _anyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security * `& g/ [2 j( J
professional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem
9 T, P3 R' o; m$ V7 b- Ito grasp just what your job is!
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:38 | 只看该作者
好吧,我就来个金山翻译版本……哈哈哈4 N( @  Z! L* x2 n5 j; M: v

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金山翻译版本已经删除……- z; _, T9 G/ |7 B0 w9 a
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[ 本帖最后由 酷不理客 于 2005-8-19 16:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:46 | 只看该作者
楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:49 | 只看该作者
原帖由 commandchen 于 2005-8-19 16:46 发表6 Y1 m8 ~- ?: r: i. O& \# k
楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.

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8 F0 L) i+ t* z' N2 \* m0 ^开玩笑,金山快译2005专业版……
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:51 | 只看该作者
这种翻译拿出来要扣分
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:53 | 只看该作者
原帖由 金属外壳 于 2005-8-19 16:51 发表  B4 K0 J% n1 K9 g1 j! _
这种翻译拿出来要扣分

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不是巴,老大,今天下午我可是被扣成饼了
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:55 | 只看该作者
删了,多一事不如少一事,闪阿
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