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发表于 2005-8-17 22:30 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
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' H9 k6 a# m# r; e+ U" A6 q' ^Just becuase you are carrying a gun in a war zone, dose not make you & l0 g5 S; L# P/ m
a combatant "Dude" 3 y( F% P1 M2 v4 a/ \

4 v" H- M! J- d) B" c2 b( LIn fact its that mind set that is gonna kill the "PMC" or the "PSD" 9 j: H$ v2 |( T. \4 w' o7 \. d
whatever cool term you can come up with this week.
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7 \& d! G6 O, J% d+ YI work for a "Security" Company, and thats what I do, i * X6 j, d6 u, Y
provide "security" for our clients.
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5 w6 n$ B" v& K. P' \5 O9 K# YI only have one job here, and that is it.......Im not here to fight ' C+ @; f: s' v) V6 J  V
a war............I did that already, in afghanistan and irag, with . p0 Z# z# [6 u2 v) R8 E/ w) c
the 82nd ABN..........then I was a combatant. if you feel like you
  O+ i7 o6 s5 `# Aare part of the "fight" or wanna be part of the fight.....Join the
/ T0 O5 a% P2 X- I, w4 Sfreakin army! 7 ^% `3 c4 V# ^- m8 X, L$ u% F- K

* J! G: R) \$ E6 r5 b! NSo many people roll up and down Route Irish in their "hard" details,
  U1 ]8 u0 y; Y6 ?/ N) oand i swear they think they are like a military unit....they got on 3 u# A$ v, R; f  z  [+ e2 y- E. A
DCU's......just about every thing that "General Jackson" in * B5 r# b# [( n' I, I( f6 b0 s
fayetteville nc sells these yahoo's have got strapped to them, they
3 W  {, F, n7 ^7 }have their guns out the windows,.....like what are you doing guy? ; T4 b5 O3 ?. [6 U" F* [# f
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are you invading a village I dont know about, are you gonna cordon 4 C* h( g& \* U  l$ i7 [
off and search a village...........Um....No, your taking a paying
% W6 a5 r) r/ K8 Z, d7 pclint on a 5k ride to BIAP, which is about the only part of Iraq,
& j3 n0 P3 z- p7 A  o. v  _0 pother than the IZ that you will see!
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$ b! F' p$ |" PNow let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and
$ b/ U  W- _1 N, D, fall.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me
4 D7 B) i& f( y9 Q6 l9 maround safely and without getting shot, killed....etc......   V& G* f  @# [( U. M" Z
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your solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up , s8 k1 k) z1 G7 F% A
with other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at ; \3 s$ C3 I! w7 V$ A: }
the the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I " _3 n* G7 [2 K1 f0 Q$ e/ b; j8 \8 m
dare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our
% G& |! Q& m) j5 ]. h+ o  I% j; Ccoolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS
' R2 D+ A  d3 |& G/ y! land bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way, ; H4 A9 [5 j0 P  E& Z* W2 O( t
that guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like
. e+ [# l( E: R8 S$ g- \( L5 san Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im
* ?$ b# V, T8 R8 m3 H% M, |# mcool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this
+ P( G, S9 d! R3 |is war. / U: H2 H7 m% X) }
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But your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior
/ T( U3 X: [+ o- ^. gspirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it & p$ s% t+ A- _% {5 G
up either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who
9 }! @: E. V3 d/ G* q' e; zcouldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that
3 P+ H7 ]4 y5 g: _you were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher
) t% [, {# q& K& V$ v# Athan high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator"
: W% `6 Z$ W& ywhatever you are calling yourself today.
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% I  h. J- L. X# `9 [, s# Imy point is this........You as a private security contractor are
- w/ b  P5 s- ^  F' {just that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase - y9 d( }& K6 H( L+ S# \( y' D5 q
him.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your
9 S8 c) r; ^0 ejob is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out
* M, ]8 t$ r7 E; J- q4 _! x" o0 u  W( j, wand start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if
5 @, F& J- V2 [- h2 P, h: Iengaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa
5 j( I3 i5 o: v6 S7 }% S, Qthere, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we : @2 c/ E. i. F4 H2 q" C
do is defensive. 7 l' @& b, J7 @* g+ A6 t8 w
' l9 z& ~/ |! f2 E! _
How many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of
2 U" K6 ^& {) p# m. |inexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they
) {% u  H7 r+ H: \$ [% ?! ?9 ~6 dtoo have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how
& O/ n! p  g, m0 fmany of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad 0 b' K% a+ ]2 u6 Z7 z. w
what they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian. ! G9 C3 C5 v9 I  t" Z. I

* k) `! K+ j# G( Mso because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers,
- E& E5 E; \* m* tbecause I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem, 4 ~! o8 f, Y3 Z; t+ z
yet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these
  t' C0 }& I; }! K3 `. |companies?
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anyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security
' k5 q* p; f; d5 |# s2 zprofessional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem
% z% x. k( @- R8 O4 D) J. Pto grasp just what your job is!
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发表于 2005-8-17 22:40 | 只看该作者
给杀人的扣过另外顶帽子
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0 `. S' t5 r6 j6 v6 M4 l杀就杀嘛
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哪儿来这边么多名堂
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. `3 A/ A+ u& [4 A! _! x  [全部杀光光3 [7 R- a; j  A$ Q2 `
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哈哈
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. @' h* z+ f  V3 J" S: z7 E" {; Z2 ?他NND~~干!
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-17 22:45 | 只看该作者
你个猪头············我们的名声就是败在你这种死猪头身上了············干!!!!
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:03 | 只看该作者
说的也是2 \: ^; [- c  D/ P
现在在大家眼中,基本把承包商和特种部队划等号了
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:06 | 只看该作者
承包商应该是避免介入,而不是主动介入
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-17 23:12 | 只看该作者
壳壳了解的深刻啊······
5 ~* |$ j" c) u5 u不像胡子一样·······
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:24 | 只看该作者
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~. }" i6 e  f2 k1 ^* l  [2 l* U$ g
偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:33 | 只看该作者
原帖由 居士 于 2005-8-17 23:24 发表; P" h6 f- s$ n" G$ w
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~
: u( B, u% B: b0 M; j. Q偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~
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干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:38 | 只看该作者
找个说法喈
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杀就杀嘛6 y/ ?# f0 I" V. a: ?! r
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又不是见不得人
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1 f: E% }3 n" Y; L这世上人比鬼多6 ?1 V9 S" Y9 P1 k: ]+ r/ S

! A$ r, k1 [4 M+ u, C1 i) n多杀些
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:41 | 只看该作者
原帖由 potato_esu 于 2005-8-18 01:33 发表- |# i* j; D: M# M, b1 e- b* B1 N% K
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干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~

% D6 ]# t9 I' [* L* X) y干什么?承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶
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发表于 2005-8-18 02:48 | 只看该作者
那位能翻译一下啊~~~哦土不明白那英文是在说什么?' `, L$ t6 q8 H/ k
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不过我到觉得无所谓啊因为是工作,人吗总要讨生活的做什么都是一样的,原则上不鄙视任何工作,实际是还是很喜欢不劳而获!撤远了嘿嘿!~~~~~~~
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3 e5 a/ q& S# `3 T' Z& q1 T$ O让我想起了这里《一个死刑犯的行刑失败》一文中的小老鼠,其实它只是想填饱肚子有什么错呢?人何尝又不是呢???
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7 w4 ^! y1 u4 }3 `) \# ?9 q- a# Z4 ?对与错只是因为利益的不同而产生!其实什么都没有,真的是世上无一物啊。' a3 }) E+ W- ~
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[ 本帖最后由 ksc 于 2005-8-18 02:49 编辑 ]
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发表于 2005-8-18 11:17 | 只看该作者

雷哥,你这帖子有中文版的么?

今时今日这样的服务还是不够di ~2 C0 d' M. W* Z! n7 ]/ n/ }9 E

2 @% P: K) m! \  S电视都有双语广播啦~. P1 E- w0 R0 U: k0 ^$ |4 b
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偶英语差~你原谅偶吧
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发表于 2005-8-18 11:38 | 只看该作者
e文实在不好,看得糊里糊涂的。雷哥有中文版的么?
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:07 | 只看该作者
原帖由 王杰 于 2005-8-18 01:41 发表
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* P& N9 j. u3 a0 k9 y4 U干什么?承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶
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如果任务需要~呵呵~呵呵呵
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:13 | 只看该作者
翻译过来大概意思就是“我们不是士兵,我们是受薪去保护我们的客户的安全。”诸如此类
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:18 | 只看该作者
看着好像是行为守则之类的东西,用的口气好象老鸟对新人的教导
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-18 15:02 | 只看该作者
抱歉啊····没有中文的···大意就是D大和壳壳说的了····
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发表于 2005-8-18 16:14 | 只看该作者
来个中文的嘛
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发表于 2005-8-18 17:49 | 只看该作者
艰难阅读中……
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发表于 2005-8-18 18:23 | 只看该作者
翻译,翻译,最近英文水平下降了,又不想查字典,,,,,,
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发表于 2005-8-18 18:49 | 只看该作者
叫大家8要轻易使用武力,8要装骚发浪,要低调。全文的核心意思就素“安全第一”,怎么有点象《方世玉》里的点穴大师的口头禅?
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发表于 2005-8-18 21:36 | 只看该作者
那还要不要“以德服人”?
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-19 13:17 | 只看该作者
因为你带着枪在战争地区,但是这并不能使你成为一个格斗家
) t5 y2 g7 O7 E1 e6 s' j& C实际上你只是一个安全保护专家
& o$ T  [3 G- j8 u我工作与一个安全公司,我向我的客户提供安全服务
9 H, z, {/ r# @, |我只是在这里有一份工作,我不是来打仗的,我在82空降师的时候就已经在
( O' i) f8 `7 Q/ D- {; e阿富汗和伊拉克打过仗了,假如你觉得你是战争的一部分,或者你想成为战争的一部分。; ?6 a1 f- j, A
去当兵吧。
( w& S8 B4 D% u那么多人在为这个事情争论和迷惑,我发誓他们一定把自己想象成了军事连队
2 p/ q3 e( l! G. q5 m- V1 r* p1 E我不知道你是不是要去搜索村庄或者准备这样做,但是你只是客人5千块的酬劳
3 ~) A2 o' o/ C来这里干活而已。# b1 u, R9 K8 a* h0 U$ B% j
未完··········翻译的不好,让英语高手见笑了·········: M7 V$ X6 K. o& Q

/ C$ O: o/ }' U7 O  y* x- @Now let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and 3 X1 t- d( D- W  w, A: g
all.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me " j& y$ W! \0 M9 Y" b6 a$ i
around safely and without getting shot, killed....etc...... * L5 z4 b# `& b1 b( ~; {
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your solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up
  r& ~2 m: O& Y+ v' o' r7 }with other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at 2 h9 @. v' f- j. d4 ^* g
the the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I / I: h, |3 O$ J8 ?
dare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our & ~$ L8 @% ~  J0 j* s
coolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS 3 P3 v/ \" K1 u4 l% z  l
and bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way,
! t, v1 a5 R/ @  X* _- l+ rthat guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like
8 Q9 s8 H* w# V+ V; Gan Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im / ?8 y0 \+ u4 I4 c: x8 M% a/ V: y
cool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this
6 h1 k6 q" j$ r" ]7 W( q9 ]& |, n$ Mis war. 0 ~  _  j$ n7 @  \
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But your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior
+ p% N1 n' d$ Z2 ]spirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it 5 d2 \# h; B4 {" A  d
up either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who # [: H+ O7 _1 Z: m9 i  C2 r" `
couldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that
' z6 q# ~# D" E. ?2 V$ k; m$ W$ s- U5 nyou were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher ! G( ?5 b# M' M! @! U, s+ D: D$ y( W
than high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator" 2 F4 B+ f. _8 I: ?& s
whatever you are calling yourself today.
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& B* n8 Y' i/ z2 A& \9 dmy point is this........You as a private security contractor are ) r# d& D, L& s; e
just that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase ( s8 q* N6 q: d% h
him.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your
& u$ U1 L. h  a+ Ijob is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out - R. L' A, ?5 q; t, F7 m( Y
and start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if
9 e+ f5 q  e( _; _9 lengaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa 1 |- x. ^0 m% g9 r5 N
there, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we 8 ^% U. B1 A  M* B+ g$ b; ^) u
do is defensive.
2 Q+ t$ U7 a4 |3 \7 m  E: s/ |
  Q1 }% E3 z' W, T) b3 A7 }: aHow many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of
4 P1 G* d; @8 z. g. V- Tinexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they 1 c# Y, {: {3 S% O  y$ o) ]
too have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how - C. u2 ~+ N6 A3 U
many of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad
, L( k  k' V# q0 bwhat they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian. . ?9 v& l3 B4 ^& X' \
3 z/ i1 P4 p; {
so because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers, 0 \# d5 ^6 T- V# d& Z  w5 @  n
because I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem, $ s' D; F( v  C7 W; F7 \7 j
yet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these 8 D9 l' B" R+ _' a7 ]
companies?
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3 s+ k% e: g) i) {% Oanyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security + [/ B" D: M0 m9 k4 |/ a
professional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem
% R, {. u, U0 N' mto grasp just what your job is!
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:38 | 只看该作者
好吧,我就来个金山翻译版本……哈哈哈2 x4 v" I2 _6 f4 r
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! w) H6 |4 q1 C金山翻译版本已经删除……: t$ ]& D/ v! p1 S
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[ 本帖最后由 酷不理客 于 2005-8-19 16:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:46 | 只看该作者
楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:49 | 只看该作者
原帖由 commandchen 于 2005-8-19 16:46 发表
$ e' s2 o- T3 b! h/ d# [8 B$ j楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.

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* [8 g5 J& q) N) L2 b* E开玩笑,金山快译2005专业版……
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:51 | 只看该作者
这种翻译拿出来要扣分
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:53 | 只看该作者
原帖由 金属外壳 于 2005-8-19 16:51 发表. l2 f/ A1 {2 S& j7 ^: e. R* e
这种翻译拿出来要扣分

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$ h5 f8 [7 d2 _, L7 X# c不是巴,老大,今天下午我可是被扣成饼了
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:55 | 只看该作者
删了,多一事不如少一事,闪阿
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