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发表于 2005-8-17 22:30 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
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Just becuase you are carrying a gun in a war zone, dose not make you
% T' p4 `9 U) n! d6 }# a+ {2 [8 za combatant "Dude"
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$ p! I" e' A. s- vIn fact its that mind set that is gonna kill the "PMC" or the "PSD"
+ k6 Z) K3 _- z/ Z+ k/ vwhatever cool term you can come up with this week.
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I work for a "Security" Company, and thats what I do, i # A; q3 c1 Y5 f
provide "security" for our clients.
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I only have one job here, and that is it.......Im not here to fight
* D4 F5 I/ |6 t2 M# qa war............I did that already, in afghanistan and irag, with 8 B5 i9 M) I, s& K" Q9 ^% F
the 82nd ABN..........then I was a combatant. if you feel like you 2 F! o6 F# |6 D. E
are part of the "fight" or wanna be part of the fight.....Join the
- X+ ?! \& P' Z" q9 E8 P: Jfreakin army!
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& t4 M6 q0 g  S& [! s1 s0 VSo many people roll up and down Route Irish in their "hard" details, & y" A3 J$ x+ V* l
and i swear they think they are like a military unit....they got on # H4 l* @8 z/ z* h3 }# ~+ T- d
DCU's......just about every thing that "General Jackson" in
3 T; F2 m4 Q2 v5 }8 W5 V3 x2 Rfayetteville nc sells these yahoo's have got strapped to them, they
, g2 Z$ I  d8 `4 g4 S  ahave their guns out the windows,.....like what are you doing guy? 3 v2 E. C% d- p* ^1 @: n4 H

2 d/ h4 c8 }9 a& w% @are you invading a village I dont know about, are you gonna cordon
& P1 N) u: s1 a4 d$ M$ z6 voff and search a village...........Um....No, your taking a paying ) t) {1 \  c2 a7 G; h) e
clint on a 5k ride to BIAP, which is about the only part of Iraq,
6 R5 f+ F; T( E/ g$ G4 f1 Xother than the IZ that you will see!
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Now let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and 1 j$ P. o# C' L: J+ J" b: B
all.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me
& x( W" g  [  u( Waround safely and without getting shot, killed....etc...... . U/ B- V' q, i1 o" ^# ?8 O
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your solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up ! \: K; J( }% v' g4 |7 \
with other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at
* N7 _' _, o6 J2 K5 i$ uthe the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I
3 u( }& R8 ?+ n" v1 _7 Fdare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our . w% b, U7 t, z* v" J
coolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS
$ o9 c: c* e6 l( f, k" Gand bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way, $ o; k4 L( P7 h! i( \. L3 o
that guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like   Q$ R1 z6 ?' m( D, c
an Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im 1 @+ ?1 B5 F1 g8 o$ M6 c
cool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this
4 U0 S; [# J" `& Z% W2 P0 pis war.
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  r, d' d) ^( n& r0 JBut your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior
: X5 A; X# i' o. O% fspirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it $ z3 a- D0 |" i2 t) e
up either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who ( K5 M  T) B, v" Y4 u3 n6 S$ L
couldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that ! `6 N! G! ^+ x/ i$ G2 s" P
you were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher . I5 Q) J* `, g2 l* |) h
than high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator" ; w; R; z4 j6 @, U# |* I
whatever you are calling yourself today.
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my point is this........You as a private security contractor are - j* H& `4 e  l6 s# s* `, |) M
just that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase / |0 ]2 H& e% g1 e
him.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your
7 P9 F$ v! `( d8 T+ s0 {job is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out
4 e& a; }* f- |and start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if
/ s* p, P* t8 e3 S+ ~8 e: M) Xengaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa
* N; K* [7 g0 `6 {3 S9 V, Wthere, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we - a- h/ r) |* {( H
do is defensive. 5 k2 \* n( F  Z. d8 w* m: W) g

) J% g: ?& b8 T: ~5 Z! C& z' P1 XHow many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of
) A' S, d% @+ A, sinexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they
0 O. h0 }( G7 a( e. ftoo have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how
7 f* E2 `  z. x' [* N' Rmany of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad # j5 I4 y  Y6 W; Y+ n
what they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian.
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+ S, W; v! P( u3 O: P: x9 d, Hso because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers, 7 d8 B: ^% L' M
because I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem, # N) u3 Z+ L2 I" M  l1 H! @' E
yet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these
" R2 U0 s- n; r/ {companies?
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anyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security
& ~, i( ~3 C' G' I' p7 Zprofessional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem + h* {; \$ V, u1 R& u! S; u
to grasp just what your job is!
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发表于 2005-8-17 22:40 | 只看该作者
给杀人的扣过另外顶帽子2 V; i7 ^3 T8 G0 Y6 x
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杀就杀嘛, X( R5 ~" V; V3 Z& T

; `0 t7 _  C  u2 a( ~6 g+ ~哪儿来这边么多名堂
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全部杀光光
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哈哈
# p% Z, v; p  m" S0 z# F" G% t杀杀
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6 k" d) B+ N6 U6 f他NND~~干!
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-17 22:45 | 只看该作者
你个猪头············我们的名声就是败在你这种死猪头身上了············干!!!!
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:03 | 只看该作者
说的也是9 L. W2 p% P3 u' e0 D# q8 j4 i( G3 {
现在在大家眼中,基本把承包商和特种部队划等号了
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:06 | 只看该作者
承包商应该是避免介入,而不是主动介入
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-17 23:12 | 只看该作者
壳壳了解的深刻啊······6 L# X; o  n; {" V6 W4 I) X+ \
不像胡子一样·······
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:24 | 只看该作者
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~% t! o' n* \' U" B/ q& Z2 k* R
偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:33 | 只看该作者
原帖由 居士 于 2005-8-17 23:24 发表% A- F" J7 E0 E& z- s
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~9 t1 ?# V2 H$ S
偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~

! g5 P8 D& z6 H* C1 l干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:38 | 只看该作者
找个说法喈
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杀就杀嘛/ w8 y, Z$ @$ a% q2 e0 \( `* }
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又不是见不得人6 L! j1 L8 ~6 k' S. y' ^
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这世上人比鬼多# s* Z! {% s! m% z
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多杀些
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:41 | 只看该作者
原帖由 potato_esu 于 2005-8-18 01:33 发表+ U6 R* ?1 I6 ?
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干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~

; K- R! ]+ W6 Z" N% S% t2 F+ T干什么?承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶
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发表于 2005-8-18 02:48 | 只看该作者
那位能翻译一下啊~~~哦土不明白那英文是在说什么?3 p$ q* C" h" a9 o- Q% H2 p% K
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不过我到觉得无所谓啊因为是工作,人吗总要讨生活的做什么都是一样的,原则上不鄙视任何工作,实际是还是很喜欢不劳而获!撤远了嘿嘿!~~~~~~~4 A8 O, Z0 N8 f: m
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让我想起了这里《一个死刑犯的行刑失败》一文中的小老鼠,其实它只是想填饱肚子有什么错呢?人何尝又不是呢???8 \7 @; `2 e2 X0 {

0 h, f6 F3 \# I对与错只是因为利益的不同而产生!其实什么都没有,真的是世上无一物啊。8 Q- y* Q8 T8 a& B1 @* P

$ w& n6 X' y9 Z3 f% _[ 本帖最后由 ksc 于 2005-8-18 02:49 编辑 ]
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发表于 2005-8-18 11:17 | 只看该作者

雷哥,你这帖子有中文版的么?

今时今日这样的服务还是不够di ~9 f3 v& N/ r5 ]* T+ E
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电视都有双语广播啦~4 G& e5 l3 W$ |; S
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偶英语差~你原谅偶吧
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发表于 2005-8-18 11:38 | 只看该作者
e文实在不好,看得糊里糊涂的。雷哥有中文版的么?
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:07 | 只看该作者
原帖由 王杰 于 2005-8-18 01:41 发表
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5 b/ |7 z7 }" I, A- I. A干什么?承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶

' L3 G0 c& ^! Q' ]- T' ]( M如果任务需要~呵呵~呵呵呵
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:13 | 只看该作者
翻译过来大概意思就是“我们不是士兵,我们是受薪去保护我们的客户的安全。”诸如此类
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:18 | 只看该作者
看着好像是行为守则之类的东西,用的口气好象老鸟对新人的教导
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-18 15:02 | 只看该作者
抱歉啊····没有中文的···大意就是D大和壳壳说的了····
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发表于 2005-8-18 16:14 | 只看该作者
来个中文的嘛
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发表于 2005-8-18 17:49 | 只看该作者
艰难阅读中……
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发表于 2005-8-18 18:23 | 只看该作者
翻译,翻译,最近英文水平下降了,又不想查字典,,,,,,
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发表于 2005-8-18 18:49 | 只看该作者
叫大家8要轻易使用武力,8要装骚发浪,要低调。全文的核心意思就素“安全第一”,怎么有点象《方世玉》里的点穴大师的口头禅?
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发表于 2005-8-18 21:36 | 只看该作者
那还要不要“以德服人”?
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-19 13:17 | 只看该作者
因为你带着枪在战争地区,但是这并不能使你成为一个格斗家/ e) R: ~) f) M1 {7 }9 k& E( h* q
实际上你只是一个安全保护专家
, v. K2 N3 d6 ~7 k8 v我工作与一个安全公司,我向我的客户提供安全服务
& R6 y1 l* R% Y  C1 c3 O4 M5 H2 x4 @7 g我只是在这里有一份工作,我不是来打仗的,我在82空降师的时候就已经在
/ N. E8 M8 j! M" I+ n2 i阿富汗和伊拉克打过仗了,假如你觉得你是战争的一部分,或者你想成为战争的一部分。3 c: z7 o: ]' F- M+ F: S
去当兵吧。: U& m' _$ k& ]; Z
那么多人在为这个事情争论和迷惑,我发誓他们一定把自己想象成了军事连队
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来这里干活而已。
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Now let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and
, U: \$ B% S7 D5 E9 Ball.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me 9 H' [1 @! `! T& _
around safely and without getting shot, killed....etc...... 4 F; n* M- y3 w2 I5 X  @& f8 X

; H, s( r5 L. S3 g# Tyour solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up
9 R0 T8 p- \- \. s, ewith other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at
0 @& P, u% q$ A7 Z$ Othe the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I
# N( R" |+ R2 N) Z. s9 f3 o1 k: G3 wdare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our ; s/ {( s+ R" q
coolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS
; a0 z$ `$ p" }. m5 q4 Aand bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way,
0 F0 a# {, ~& F# ^7 T! M# Bthat guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like 6 o6 e/ J1 h5 c9 X
an Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im
2 s4 i/ I9 Q/ p4 _6 mcool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this : }2 a+ W: m4 X/ k, E' k
is war.   h/ Q3 I2 M& s. h+ X1 U

' R& ?- \" I+ \6 {0 D0 \* uBut your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior 8 O$ l# r2 B- u
spirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it * W8 X2 g; r& W* \% P' B/ Y% [( H
up either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who
8 d) J2 J8 b$ v) K" _couldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that
  w, q7 a6 {& o- w) h: f. N/ Y& R2 pyou were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher
* G# \$ x4 ]- y' L% ?) n5 o% R2 V% Sthan high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator" 3 Y! n- `: N/ d8 ]! v
whatever you are calling yourself today.
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4 i3 L* ~, x5 h: F5 Umy point is this........You as a private security contractor are
0 V) ]8 k" ?, l9 zjust that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase , a& v& C2 n" U; @, w* |
him.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your 8 U2 B0 `9 A  L. F
job is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out
) U% J7 `0 o% O5 Cand start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if
$ M6 a6 i8 z$ L( i( K. _, @  Cengaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa " n+ c: x) X$ L
there, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we , M/ H5 Z& s, p% \6 T" l0 s) n( E
do is defensive. & z) \1 Z- d" s3 F
1 l  g, g/ r5 W! w# ?- a
How many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of
- s# U1 z: q  e$ m! f) \& winexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they
! Q8 \. D& N7 N% t/ etoo have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how
" \/ p9 W# }  o/ m5 Imany of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad
! q# L3 ]) }7 l# W/ H( r6 gwhat they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian.
5 t: C) Z4 m* a, e* ~* h5 s7 F! g
so because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers, + t, i9 w- O5 d
because I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem, 6 D0 ], P" d+ @
yet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these
! p+ P/ J5 B; ]+ jcompanies?
9 \6 U7 }! l; C/ M; p6 X! m7 z; M6 y6 \* G; q: \
anyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security 3 j. s) Z( x' U( I1 k6 \5 |# m: R$ b
professional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem
. `. o- e5 b9 z: R4 R! ]to grasp just what your job is!
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:38 | 只看该作者
好吧,我就来个金山翻译版本……哈哈哈+ s; R) S: k6 {# M0 ~

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, |2 _+ o: ], M6 E$ }0 M. {5 c& k金山翻译版本已经删除……- r) \0 P' U" z" N: ]3 K' {) l

' o( h: y3 S) r6 Z$ Y# v3 G[ 本帖最后由 酷不理客 于 2005-8-19 16:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:46 | 只看该作者
楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:49 | 只看该作者
原帖由 commandchen 于 2005-8-19 16:46 发表
6 s' J" E, w# F4 Q9 `楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.

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开玩笑,金山快译2005专业版……
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:51 | 只看该作者
这种翻译拿出来要扣分
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:53 | 只看该作者
原帖由 金属外壳 于 2005-8-19 16:51 发表9 [- o/ v+ I# e& Z
这种翻译拿出来要扣分
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不是巴,老大,今天下午我可是被扣成饼了
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:55 | 只看该作者
删了,多一事不如少一事,闪阿
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