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发表于 2005-8-17 22:30 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
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; a1 x; O! B( \. GJust becuase you are carrying a gun in a war zone, dose not make you
; Q0 H! s( X, o; M2 o# ba combatant "Dude"
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In fact its that mind set that is gonna kill the "PMC" or the "PSD" , `0 k1 D; V& L6 ^, f: U
whatever cool term you can come up with this week.
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6 U; Z% A6 v3 X9 v* i# {" gI work for a "Security" Company, and thats what I do, i
& L% k8 p- }: E$ v2 r  \provide "security" for our clients.
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# p: m5 v/ |" W! Y4 f. m$ @; h+ YI only have one job here, and that is it.......Im not here to fight " `9 W0 o& k% Q( V" q; U& w
a war............I did that already, in afghanistan and irag, with
7 o) ~% N8 T! ~5 o1 `4 ~6 ]the 82nd ABN..........then I was a combatant. if you feel like you
4 E7 B) L( X6 o; g0 Z6 Bare part of the "fight" or wanna be part of the fight.....Join the , V, b8 z9 m8 p; P6 c
freakin army!
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( ?+ G3 ]; |. v/ d/ ZSo many people roll up and down Route Irish in their "hard" details, * b/ Y2 }) T7 ?: }* ^% ?
and i swear they think they are like a military unit....they got on + ~& \& d! L; m% C) h
DCU's......just about every thing that "General Jackson" in 6 d* u2 O$ D6 J0 e3 J5 J/ A( g
fayetteville nc sells these yahoo's have got strapped to them, they
, a6 }- c) u# f( s' b1 }2 ]! ^have their guns out the windows,.....like what are you doing guy? 5 E" S+ C2 v; x# w, o) A# r  T& W
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are you invading a village I dont know about, are you gonna cordon 2 Y$ o* S, Q' f+ C* b
off and search a village...........Um....No, your taking a paying
. P* [7 j" e  a% V8 Lclint on a 5k ride to BIAP, which is about the only part of Iraq,
( N1 ^& t" a& F+ h; g4 @% X7 c9 Hother than the IZ that you will see!
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Now let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and
2 r- O5 ]9 u8 v. v2 F9 pall.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me ! ~. P: w$ f6 Z4 q- i  f2 E) R) X
around safely and without getting shot, killed....etc......
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your solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up ! t" Z$ {' ?. E+ V  i9 {
with other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at
+ a) V( W& |# k( Z! Bthe the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I
% s' f9 q; P/ b7 U6 K, P3 u% Mdare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our
4 B! R6 P; N: e. E$ `& M0 {- gcoolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS
" b( Z, ]4 w1 G  Dand bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way, " n( ]$ }' j2 A1 V: C
that guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like
$ D' `% s6 E, @/ B$ B1 jan Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im 1 d6 I& {% U7 y) z# ]4 F2 q
cool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this
9 Q# X1 i% {6 Bis war. 6 o0 r0 Z; I; ~" r

2 O; H, K2 g+ CBut your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior : \7 T2 |' c6 d/ z2 U# b; h
spirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it 1 X* C8 W3 i; D' _4 @
up either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who
" p8 y+ j: H# F5 t, Ncouldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that
1 z) `0 t* w( P* i" J) N8 j* [you were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher 6 a1 L! v7 o. \/ i- d$ m9 ^; @$ ^4 j) o
than high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator" 3 W: J& I7 G8 e; X: x! \5 x8 c
whatever you are calling yourself today. $ {* p. _) V! X+ g! `1 F& Z8 ^0 M) @
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my point is this........You as a private security contractor are
; }# r: c# G+ u6 S4 Z* p4 Sjust that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase
# L) R! @8 }. x" x/ phim.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your
7 z2 y( k0 T0 v$ E/ e+ R& qjob is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out
2 S' R0 L/ Z3 u* Y1 N6 d( }and start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if 4 ]7 S0 b3 C$ {4 `  \
engaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa / p* W1 `, N" {/ H" E4 V% C
there, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we
6 W$ ]7 `; ?; v1 b5 mdo is defensive.
% N, v0 _8 o6 j' _0 u* B# D6 `" A* K1 c4 a$ \& B) {+ d9 N
How many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of 4 O  h1 x) F" T5 W( t' ]$ S' H
inexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they
- T  K7 p7 o% c+ y. `0 `1 t5 c) utoo have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how 7 [. K- c7 b7 x; o9 D: x
many of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad 4 c) h; Q1 S% S& q
what they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian.
7 v) m- X* R. k1 v0 W
* z% V. I) ~& i0 W& Dso because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers, $ P: H% R) s; h) F- B
because I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem,
5 R! S* y1 s# y( {1 H3 |yet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these
/ q1 ?" C  w0 R1 X$ ucompanies?
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anyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security
  t. y/ O  b  p# x8 fprofessional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem
& R  A; T) _2 }7 \$ \8 _to grasp just what your job is!
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发表于 2005-8-17 22:40 | 只看该作者
给杀人的扣过另外顶帽子; `; n+ E1 N+ l# f2 n% f

  C" ^: e; Z* Z% m杀就杀嘛
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哪儿来这边么多名堂1 b8 E) [3 {2 {6 _
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全部杀光光5 t. ~& E# P- _0 a* o
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哈哈
: L- u/ }8 B5 d* \% d2 @杀杀9 G2 t& l5 |. r- ?  J7 v6 b4 E

2 ]$ g: R. R. F( k) Z! `& y他NND~~干!
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-17 22:45 | 只看该作者
你个猪头············我们的名声就是败在你这种死猪头身上了············干!!!!
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:03 | 只看该作者
说的也是8 R; ]3 w: ]- b+ J' Y8 S7 B
现在在大家眼中,基本把承包商和特种部队划等号了
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:06 | 只看该作者
承包商应该是避免介入,而不是主动介入
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-17 23:12 | 只看该作者
壳壳了解的深刻啊······
1 u1 _6 d+ @! p# U+ \+ r0 o不像胡子一样·······
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:24 | 只看该作者
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~/ X# z& P7 J% _( f) I" s
偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:33 | 只看该作者
原帖由 居士 于 2005-8-17 23:24 发表- M( y$ n+ z, ?4 G' j
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~
% _  t9 M( L6 i/ q: F% R# r2 ^/ @* J偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~

! l+ d+ C$ Z3 g. [干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:38 | 只看该作者
找个说法喈* f9 P& g, z9 f8 c$ f
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* V; _9 p( z- F/ e: S, n( @杀就杀嘛
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又不是见不得人+ R1 J7 @7 u# x, Z7 K
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这世上人比鬼多
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多杀些
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:41 | 只看该作者
原帖由 potato_esu 于 2005-8-18 01:33 发表
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' p) J+ p6 z% J# ~: h: a( l干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~
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干什么?承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶
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发表于 2005-8-18 02:48 | 只看该作者
那位能翻译一下啊~~~哦土不明白那英文是在说什么?. X. Z/ t! t! p) H" B! s
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不过我到觉得无所谓啊因为是工作,人吗总要讨生活的做什么都是一样的,原则上不鄙视任何工作,实际是还是很喜欢不劳而获!撤远了嘿嘿!~~~~~~~
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让我想起了这里《一个死刑犯的行刑失败》一文中的小老鼠,其实它只是想填饱肚子有什么错呢?人何尝又不是呢???6 v- B! L  ~$ S4 g" }( v) T/ ~
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对与错只是因为利益的不同而产生!其实什么都没有,真的是世上无一物啊。
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6 y6 k! w+ U- l. p[ 本帖最后由 ksc 于 2005-8-18 02:49 编辑 ]
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发表于 2005-8-18 11:17 | 只看该作者

雷哥,你这帖子有中文版的么?

今时今日这样的服务还是不够di ~
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0 n" r& K- a7 Z* n8 X4 @电视都有双语广播啦~
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偶英语差~你原谅偶吧
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发表于 2005-8-18 11:38 | 只看该作者
e文实在不好,看得糊里糊涂的。雷哥有中文版的么?
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:07 | 只看该作者
原帖由 王杰 于 2005-8-18 01:41 发表% K. u2 d% _% n: h  X. ?3 ]* q5 j1 ^
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干什么?承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶

0 {" L% O( |$ v2 Z7 `/ C如果任务需要~呵呵~呵呵呵
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:13 | 只看该作者
翻译过来大概意思就是“我们不是士兵,我们是受薪去保护我们的客户的安全。”诸如此类
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:18 | 只看该作者
看着好像是行为守则之类的东西,用的口气好象老鸟对新人的教导
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-18 15:02 | 只看该作者
抱歉啊····没有中文的···大意就是D大和壳壳说的了····
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发表于 2005-8-18 16:14 | 只看该作者
来个中文的嘛
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发表于 2005-8-18 17:49 | 只看该作者
艰难阅读中……
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发表于 2005-8-18 18:23 | 只看该作者
翻译,翻译,最近英文水平下降了,又不想查字典,,,,,,
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发表于 2005-8-18 18:49 | 只看该作者
叫大家8要轻易使用武力,8要装骚发浪,要低调。全文的核心意思就素“安全第一”,怎么有点象《方世玉》里的点穴大师的口头禅?
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发表于 2005-8-18 21:36 | 只看该作者
那还要不要“以德服人”?
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-19 13:17 | 只看该作者
因为你带着枪在战争地区,但是这并不能使你成为一个格斗家
" d. a+ W0 S/ ^* }3 a( q2 y- K实际上你只是一个安全保护专家: A: N" U4 s+ ^7 M
我工作与一个安全公司,我向我的客户提供安全服务4 G7 M# u4 a) Q8 A
我只是在这里有一份工作,我不是来打仗的,我在82空降师的时候就已经在
. y* t3 {5 {- o/ p! g% Y4 n5 S- p阿富汗和伊拉克打过仗了,假如你觉得你是战争的一部分,或者你想成为战争的一部分。4 H0 W- D. b4 R& C
去当兵吧。
; g; U( k' K2 a, R  ?" _那么多人在为这个事情争论和迷惑,我发誓他们一定把自己想象成了军事连队
0 s. \6 E' a5 h我不知道你是不是要去搜索村庄或者准备这样做,但是你只是客人5千块的酬劳
: M, Q8 z2 {* O来这里干活而已。
: _+ _! u* t' @- ]未完··········翻译的不好,让英语高手见笑了·········1 f; T  s/ y! u: d9 n+ |9 `! o
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Now let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and
0 P) Y9 R9 |+ Q; @8 oall.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me
  D) W+ v' q4 x7 `) d- J9 raround safely and without getting shot, killed....etc...... 0 O/ x8 P3 s3 Y* X, H) i+ u( y# v

/ A! K1 ^. t% B9 `your solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up
( Z  n, N1 o6 s  U0 f- nwith other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at " A) M- ^5 d5 f+ b4 l: w
the the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I " P5 a* @! q5 _9 Y2 H
dare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our ) V; B' R( S% S! h7 o0 @- v
coolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS
* t* F( x/ F4 |7 @3 k$ e5 W4 d3 ]and bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way,
# \4 a8 Y" H6 \3 @that guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like 3 R: I% _/ S7 |
an Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im
! G% ^) O' K5 q7 [$ Hcool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this ( h" \7 k' p( P* u
is war.
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/ I* P& H* L/ y% X& KBut your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior " a7 v9 |- T1 \! E5 M
spirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it
3 r6 o# ~. I" a4 G3 k4 r0 W% N0 iup either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who " b" K+ R( q3 R& B4 ]
couldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that $ R- I: B' I9 M" ~. m& {5 Z
you were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher
9 ]# i5 h/ b% [0 ^6 rthan high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator" " {% U# C/ b: X7 H
whatever you are calling yourself today. - V* ~2 s- u6 L( M! b2 g! ^

- s- [3 A8 @1 x7 y7 S* emy point is this........You as a private security contractor are ( k& n0 B" V0 L; w
just that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase 3 L$ O2 W* e- x$ C2 D
him.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your ( n$ r/ i) @: {& B9 z( M5 o5 ~: }
job is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out
: I, z  }8 p" R( g- j0 f; g* J3 i6 p# j+ Mand start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if ) @8 D* r' A% p4 x/ F/ T" E( a
engaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa 3 M7 x6 V! Q# Z. {
there, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we
# R" g7 ~) h+ i$ s1 j; Ado is defensive.
' a1 M9 s9 F* s3 y9 L# }2 j: f5 }# a; \* P$ g: `
How many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of # n& l1 |# @2 v8 @! c
inexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they + ~8 ?& n+ y/ G* F4 Q' G
too have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how ( K9 j  r. J( l4 e" r$ i3 x
many of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad
$ ]( f4 w5 E8 S1 w/ Twhat they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian.
& z' N: [9 N5 O& X+ G# H  Q" I$ w) T
so because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers, 6 U( g3 _+ B0 F
because I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem, , \6 s5 ^$ ]& s( J4 D' M
yet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these $ r! F; p. r* q3 S" V
companies? 6 ^7 V$ @, v4 a/ d

# H2 \2 z- `$ S9 B4 z% ^anyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security
' R. K3 G8 w& N  B' w, tprofessional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem
- N/ i; N  [; C8 U: D/ x: Q7 x9 Ito grasp just what your job is!
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:38 | 只看该作者
好吧,我就来个金山翻译版本……哈哈哈
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' U# {# B5 P8 x! {0 u7 V# W金山翻译版本已经删除……% q, l; v% t! m& F

: w! \0 m5 r8 f2 x[ 本帖最后由 酷不理客 于 2005-8-19 16:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:46 | 只看该作者
楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:49 | 只看该作者
原帖由 commandchen 于 2005-8-19 16:46 发表
8 n  f2 S; i1 a, T" c) k( s( C楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.

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$ |& b7 M+ T% K5 G7 g' s) b开玩笑,金山快译2005专业版……
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:51 | 只看该作者
这种翻译拿出来要扣分
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:53 | 只看该作者
原帖由 金属外壳 于 2005-8-19 16:51 发表
' L' L3 S/ w8 }* Y* R8 I+ u3 h7 ]这种翻译拿出来要扣分
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1 x0 S; s/ k! c0 V+ F6 z不是巴,老大,今天下午我可是被扣成饼了
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:55 | 只看该作者
删了,多一事不如少一事,闪阿
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