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发表于 2005-8-17 22:30 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
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" w% O* n, [8 M- MJust becuase you are carrying a gun in a war zone, dose not make you
' K7 o* i3 M8 Z) R. S- \a combatant "Dude"
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5 o$ J- }" E, ZIn fact its that mind set that is gonna kill the "PMC" or the "PSD"
2 E$ a" K9 G5 r3 I, R# hwhatever cool term you can come up with this week.
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( x; H: H& D" i  P* {7 v; v7 yI work for a "Security" Company, and thats what I do, i   X  u: a- a8 ~' c" X" L, g; {
provide "security" for our clients.
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I only have one job here, and that is it.......Im not here to fight $ f3 l. T! [' N4 U# ]0 S
a war............I did that already, in afghanistan and irag, with 7 n% S( N7 m& |% R& H# Z) ~6 V
the 82nd ABN..........then I was a combatant. if you feel like you 2 D! P. |% |  Q  `- w
are part of the "fight" or wanna be part of the fight.....Join the
8 \, e; F* E0 Yfreakin army!
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# c2 N6 G, e# ?1 v9 e; mSo many people roll up and down Route Irish in their "hard" details, 9 a& z0 s* M* t6 n
and i swear they think they are like a military unit....they got on
. o: P1 d4 o/ E. n2 |* U% QDCU's......just about every thing that "General Jackson" in 5 N: W% m1 Y7 S, N4 I
fayetteville nc sells these yahoo's have got strapped to them, they ' C: e+ K$ R# [
have their guns out the windows,.....like what are you doing guy? + N& C: |: O0 l

6 @3 o. N/ O  Y* Q( b1 uare you invading a village I dont know about, are you gonna cordon 0 B- F; h& T- |  w/ `- Y+ g) K
off and search a village...........Um....No, your taking a paying
, }1 ?9 E2 k/ Z5 B& n0 x7 yclint on a 5k ride to BIAP, which is about the only part of Iraq,
. x& f3 R* T8 {/ Y. M1 y( e. Yother than the IZ that you will see! 1 S9 f5 S( }' k" m; F1 s& Z8 b

: X/ s, {5 J1 ^( z6 V2 v+ uNow let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and
: p9 f% L0 |% B) eall.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me 0 E# {/ F7 A; M5 H  x. e4 [
around safely and without getting shot, killed....etc...... ; A0 m: P. R2 B- N  k2 G
, ^- x' f9 U( L) A! m+ r0 L3 g
your solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up
# Q6 n5 Q* i4 J* B0 `7 \6 z! xwith other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at 4 P# i% G5 @$ g0 L: [& X7 T6 p; t
the the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I 3 I; M9 X# V& G) B  J9 {1 g0 N
dare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our
% Z7 k( ^& ]. A- Qcoolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS 1 M. [6 }# F8 y; @0 Y2 m% i
and bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way, ' S( t* J- n5 v8 [5 i- ]5 Y) }6 ?6 q
that guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like
" I% c/ ]! h& f" oan Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im ; D: i8 `3 |  ]6 p+ H( Q
cool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this
% j2 t( R- S: g; |4 }is war.
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0 c% E$ ^; p  l. H  u( O8 TBut your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior
& O, ?/ ^1 P; Z3 {9 J2 v+ R  H0 Lspirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it
& G1 M4 ~' N: F2 C9 Zup either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who / \+ s  _1 M' G$ `. G+ h  {8 Y0 u1 D
couldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that
' z4 d( i- t, Cyou were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher
* ~; l- k. |9 D# n# Tthan high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator" 3 S" U3 _/ b! n8 x3 t$ a
whatever you are calling yourself today.
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5 u& i" a* n) ]0 ]9 z5 y" W3 P; m9 a& Ymy point is this........You as a private security contractor are * u0 _0 P4 }" S3 `( |  r
just that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase 0 v8 Q) R' x' j9 U
him.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your
/ W/ L3 S0 y6 b# ijob is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out 9 Z3 c# p, H% E. }9 B& R
and start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if
2 O6 P* y; L( fengaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa
" f4 k& k9 r! hthere, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we 0 i. p4 y3 q6 ^" M( C
do is defensive.
- l- W" i1 T! a# d5 d  ~6 n: g/ z  f6 Y( U
How many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of
% X& H9 S8 S" Y# S2 |inexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they
5 ^% l) z  ]; n0 x, w+ R8 Mtoo have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how % l' L* g* I! H3 K/ v6 F
many of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad : V# N/ H6 U! J! \; l
what they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian. / |- G% q# Q) `4 L, |0 r

/ A% M$ a- r+ w# k* f* _& Cso because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers,
5 y* {8 y) h, u* ]6 abecause I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem,
7 E/ E+ O. W" M6 Nyet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these - f1 k* ^- j  Q5 P0 v" G  R
companies? $ A) j" T( H$ |! s/ o1 ?

' y8 |8 Y0 I$ [. D; }( Hanyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security
( O! c8 _$ n+ p1 f5 R7 Lprofessional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem   c* ?' H9 J8 I" h) u. _
to grasp just what your job is!
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发表于 2005-8-17 22:40 | 只看该作者
给杀人的扣过另外顶帽子0 y, d2 n& T& R
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杀就杀嘛5 {( }/ W  _; R9 D) w1 }# T. `) g- a
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哪儿来这边么多名堂
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全部杀光光
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哈哈
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7 `+ G7 L1 B3 G6 r2 n他NND~~干!
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-17 22:45 | 只看该作者
你个猪头············我们的名声就是败在你这种死猪头身上了············干!!!!
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:03 | 只看该作者
说的也是0 c0 ~3 r5 u4 I5 u% g( \
现在在大家眼中,基本把承包商和特种部队划等号了
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:06 | 只看该作者
承包商应该是避免介入,而不是主动介入
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-17 23:12 | 只看该作者
壳壳了解的深刻啊······
1 q( u( A" ^1 X/ H不像胡子一样·······
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:24 | 只看该作者
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~. M7 z5 c% X7 S. a0 ^3 r
偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:33 | 只看该作者
原帖由 居士 于 2005-8-17 23:24 发表/ z  R, k7 j1 V2 J
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~
' U$ M2 G- s+ u* m, r) H+ o  Q; j偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~

9 q* }: c7 p7 y. o干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:38 | 只看该作者
找个说法喈6 [& a4 c, |( I; t) T4 O6 c5 y
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杀就杀嘛
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又不是见不得人2 c' {' |+ z* b5 z, m
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这世上人比鬼多- p# z* _% Y3 u* ?1 Y$ D9 F
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多杀些
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:41 | 只看该作者
原帖由 potato_esu 于 2005-8-18 01:33 发表
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$ U4 y) J8 {- Y. X' i干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~

2 F0 r( Y! y  r4 S' A+ ]干什么?承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶
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发表于 2005-8-18 02:48 | 只看该作者
那位能翻译一下啊~~~哦土不明白那英文是在说什么?! r# y' w# g, n; O& n# q; k

* W% O! U9 z; w2 r: T不过我到觉得无所谓啊因为是工作,人吗总要讨生活的做什么都是一样的,原则上不鄙视任何工作,实际是还是很喜欢不劳而获!撤远了嘿嘿!~~~~~~~
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让我想起了这里《一个死刑犯的行刑失败》一文中的小老鼠,其实它只是想填饱肚子有什么错呢?人何尝又不是呢???  P, N6 Q/ @* N& n3 s6 o8 m
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对与错只是因为利益的不同而产生!其实什么都没有,真的是世上无一物啊。
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[ 本帖最后由 ksc 于 2005-8-18 02:49 编辑 ]
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发表于 2005-8-18 11:17 | 只看该作者

雷哥,你这帖子有中文版的么?

今时今日这样的服务还是不够di ~( z# k0 z  f6 ]2 v4 U; P0 x
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电视都有双语广播啦~+ F, m& z* c0 Y+ |1 ]# y) D

. n) b% u& E- C& t7 f偶英语差~你原谅偶吧
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发表于 2005-8-18 11:38 | 只看该作者
e文实在不好,看得糊里糊涂的。雷哥有中文版的么?
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:07 | 只看该作者
原帖由 王杰 于 2005-8-18 01:41 发表0 ^2 T8 r( u( V) J) Y

2 z' ~3 k; ]0 X% ]4 V干什么?承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶

( {- F7 Z2 w1 K' J) f如果任务需要~呵呵~呵呵呵
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:13 | 只看该作者
翻译过来大概意思就是“我们不是士兵,我们是受薪去保护我们的客户的安全。”诸如此类
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:18 | 只看该作者
看着好像是行为守则之类的东西,用的口气好象老鸟对新人的教导
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-18 15:02 | 只看该作者
抱歉啊····没有中文的···大意就是D大和壳壳说的了····
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发表于 2005-8-18 16:14 | 只看该作者
来个中文的嘛
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发表于 2005-8-18 17:49 | 只看该作者
艰难阅读中……
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发表于 2005-8-18 18:23 | 只看该作者
翻译,翻译,最近英文水平下降了,又不想查字典,,,,,,
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发表于 2005-8-18 18:49 | 只看该作者
叫大家8要轻易使用武力,8要装骚发浪,要低调。全文的核心意思就素“安全第一”,怎么有点象《方世玉》里的点穴大师的口头禅?
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发表于 2005-8-18 21:36 | 只看该作者
那还要不要“以德服人”?
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-19 13:17 | 只看该作者
因为你带着枪在战争地区,但是这并不能使你成为一个格斗家
/ Y- ]( W1 P: a' R1 u3 [! H* M实际上你只是一个安全保护专家" k$ J6 V' P' K; r! Q
我工作与一个安全公司,我向我的客户提供安全服务2 t. S! `+ K/ K$ M% a; @0 m, V# h
我只是在这里有一份工作,我不是来打仗的,我在82空降师的时候就已经在% M2 G: X3 h# j+ Y
阿富汗和伊拉克打过仗了,假如你觉得你是战争的一部分,或者你想成为战争的一部分。
% j0 N0 J! H# C# B, z去当兵吧。
5 K- v/ @$ g/ X' z$ U9 v4 o那么多人在为这个事情争论和迷惑,我发誓他们一定把自己想象成了军事连队" u. O7 H: P& I! p( N8 b- q
我不知道你是不是要去搜索村庄或者准备这样做,但是你只是客人5千块的酬劳
" _4 b- B& l6 c- ~来这里干活而已。6 ^" @3 a* Y5 }) }# B, Y) Z
未完··········翻译的不好,让英语高手见笑了·········
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; h) ?5 I+ C# `' X6 c9 G5 x0 gNow let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and ( K- ], k: \6 K
all.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me
. m: t1 s# @7 y" [6 maround safely and without getting shot, killed....etc...... 8 c+ \0 C2 P$ H

# d, c) c! f7 {' ~( Hyour solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up
2 z# j( j8 F+ }' ]+ g; lwith other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at 9 _$ T6 `1 K9 B1 N* d
the the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I
- e3 ]' s. X8 U$ u. B  ydare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our
, r: e2 U1 J" n- jcoolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS
. J) }2 c2 a/ X% v& `  C) Aand bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way, $ F& F1 w) x$ t  p. K
that guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like
  `: l; h1 z5 y& @6 ~5 G8 ]an Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im
0 s8 R0 {+ m* Z9 Ucool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this " e8 L* L0 B: h" r5 |0 x5 I
is war. ) K, Z5 j& Z9 U/ ]; I: l
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But your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior $ g# [" p7 x3 T" w
spirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it
# J8 n: j; P1 u4 `! z) T( O. Qup either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who 9 M, h2 A& L; F& y( f6 `5 S5 O+ W, \
couldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that
( P+ i# n% g" O. Uyou were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher / A8 `3 ?: I# t: `! N9 a
than high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator"
6 `0 e, P! w6 D+ l2 t8 Pwhatever you are calling yourself today.
3 n/ a) M) z' O; W; s6 g' F2 q8 u, ^
my point is this........You as a private security contractor are 8 z' u3 o8 ]" ]- Q1 z$ r: n
just that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase 2 _, E5 U6 B. c) l& V4 d/ N# T
him.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your # d. T% \; V) ]
job is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out ! a6 v+ |" P& d- W" ~7 R! ?
and start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if " {* i8 W9 r0 e! Q
engaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa - c6 C* Y$ r# `2 n; z# G: i
there, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we
& o( W! B; r% l. O% ado is defensive.
( }! j0 ~3 [  K! A/ {/ O6 _! W) _# ~+ f% g% ~6 P
How many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of
: P) p% W6 e- Ninexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they
7 N! {5 h) G- w8 X7 V/ d- Atoo have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how # ?/ l' D: o+ K% ^7 t4 C9 G
many of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad 7 b* g1 m1 \7 b
what they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian. 1 v$ b  p9 [; z; H( a) ^4 Z
- z4 t) b9 K" }7 d1 }' ]- [
so because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers,
5 J7 g" _) \: n. u+ J+ R* `7 Q; |because I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem,
3 g1 q* M* n( R' I; Cyet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these 4 S2 B& ]$ f5 O& B, W
companies? - U4 F. c) I, Z, j5 V

: V# p. H" f  `. v; s" r. O1 Hanyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security
% N4 e0 X* d4 [, M* G3 ^professional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem
" e4 ^4 M: b  E4 ]to grasp just what your job is!
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:38 | 只看该作者
好吧,我就来个金山翻译版本……哈哈哈9 s+ y0 Q7 g; x

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金山翻译版本已经删除……
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[ 本帖最后由 酷不理客 于 2005-8-19 16:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:46 | 只看该作者
楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:49 | 只看该作者
原帖由 commandchen 于 2005-8-19 16:46 发表
7 K, h2 B- s: O  N3 y7 F6 J) s7 C* V楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.
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开玩笑,金山快译2005专业版……
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:51 | 只看该作者
这种翻译拿出来要扣分
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:53 | 只看该作者
原帖由 金属外壳 于 2005-8-19 16:51 发表
( s7 C$ Z6 O& y. J* j8 y这种翻译拿出来要扣分
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% r, q4 y) G7 k* l5 W- d不是巴,老大,今天下午我可是被扣成饼了
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:55 | 只看该作者
删了,多一事不如少一事,闪阿
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