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发表于 2005-8-17 22:30 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
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, W5 U3 n4 c3 l# u: wJust becuase you are carrying a gun in a war zone, dose not make you 1 l5 R  D$ O3 n: L+ t9 E! o
a combatant "Dude"
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In fact its that mind set that is gonna kill the "PMC" or the "PSD"
( c- d. r! D7 m- F7 z9 F/ R3 ]# awhatever cool term you can come up with this week. ' j% m  P8 b0 S  |" M) m

+ u- U- Z7 L2 _* ?8 ^I work for a "Security" Company, and thats what I do, i / R& r9 @6 B% l+ z- F) b: o
provide "security" for our clients.
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& ?, f- d$ r6 B8 Z2 G1 W2 H0 KI only have one job here, and that is it.......Im not here to fight % I3 D" U8 g3 i! T% t6 u% [
a war............I did that already, in afghanistan and irag, with   K' X! G. s$ J& C
the 82nd ABN..........then I was a combatant. if you feel like you ! G2 v5 X5 g7 j/ d6 L
are part of the "fight" or wanna be part of the fight.....Join the
0 x- t9 B; C/ U& H  \5 pfreakin army!
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So many people roll up and down Route Irish in their "hard" details, ; h; v; Q, |! Z5 o! O) k
and i swear they think they are like a military unit....they got on 4 d8 B; V4 {4 }# g
DCU's......just about every thing that "General Jackson" in 0 r8 R+ e1 z" Q- X; d
fayetteville nc sells these yahoo's have got strapped to them, they
! r9 G0 f5 Y' L* K. ehave their guns out the windows,.....like what are you doing guy?
! j1 X1 f$ Y8 J* z. F/ T7 n5 g& V: P5 k5 R2 O% v) o% x
are you invading a village I dont know about, are you gonna cordon
6 [5 @' t: D# yoff and search a village...........Um....No, your taking a paying
& S. Q) R# p( p2 l8 iclint on a 5k ride to BIAP, which is about the only part of Iraq,
# Q) D2 l, W0 t3 m+ E2 ]' ?other than the IZ that you will see!
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Now let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and 7 g2 b: `9 T5 x1 K
all.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me
5 M: g4 X; Z) f( G) @8 _7 `: Laround safely and without getting shot, killed....etc......
& V$ L( g7 Q0 U9 o3 E% ^/ z
! Z0 V$ L1 Y  g( ~3 hyour solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up
+ q8 O! k# s  H3 ?0 ]. _with other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at
$ g9 \5 \; C% \the the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I
) U! M, X0 v/ F/ kdare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our
; n7 d/ D, `9 x! A" u& |coolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS
5 C/ e3 L9 G/ B; \! N) J. Qand bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way,   ~! l, u/ G' {+ ~& U: L( M1 |
that guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like : T% X1 m( D' y5 Q# [
an Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im
/ }6 p! d& H9 w5 O. scool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this
; o( b/ A# M4 q6 P$ g. @is war. ( Q0 w, e# N# E8 Y
6 A7 k$ ?# r* P* g- D, y$ ^
But your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior
; d2 v% a' ?* r1 `4 f+ o( @4 pspirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it 9 `: Q! b/ n- F( a6 y, c+ N
up either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who
* p$ v1 H  W4 s! fcouldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that
' m  s6 \1 u; Z. }! x( Jyou were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher ' `9 e8 P9 b- T, Y% s
than high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator"
/ ]+ `- y1 y4 A2 f1 |whatever you are calling yourself today. & G/ U3 q1 _: r0 S% G

5 J- R1 O; v4 t9 y: Gmy point is this........You as a private security contractor are
/ C; e! y8 T: ]# Z" Njust that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase 3 V9 A7 H0 s+ y; [: H9 d$ M/ g" E
him.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your 3 e7 G) \# O/ n% ?) v
job is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out . c0 g5 z9 T+ A
and start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if 2 q5 R, z. ~* M3 V0 g
engaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa
4 ~4 v0 c# H# T* o1 Ithere, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we
2 T" [; K, y. u) V* y  Vdo is defensive. - v) [- q$ M' h" M

$ w2 ]  l1 T9 T: v8 ?How many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of
( g- t& n/ U2 e% t3 Kinexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they $ j$ O% m, {- T; k
too have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how 3 O# P9 V% H2 e) B
many of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad
2 U5 S0 a8 K% k1 U- xwhat they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian. ! M2 c' n# y! i* O% D: q
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so because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers, . o5 m; f/ \: w5 q& M7 I/ |0 O" K& F( r
because I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem,
$ ?2 U- ?8 ~+ ~- Z! g6 ]+ F' ryet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these $ E1 Y7 \* `& a1 Z2 [  S6 x
companies? " V9 S' y* }5 ^# f5 k% H, y( l7 n
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anyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security
  `5 n; u$ T& Uprofessional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem ( l1 Q# M; U6 C$ W/ y) Q
to grasp just what your job is!
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发表于 2005-8-17 22:40 | 只看该作者
给杀人的扣过另外顶帽子
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杀就杀嘛% v' T: p2 G% s5 }9 W5 Q1 \8 Q

; j' [/ ]( f6 O$ w  o* p3 Z$ |哪儿来这边么多名堂
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全部杀光光
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3 T' x+ i* L: T$ d' o' S哈哈/ U/ g% q4 x) S& R% n' L! O& b
杀杀, r% K6 Y" ^# q4 R+ W) L
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他NND~~干!
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-17 22:45 | 只看该作者
你个猪头············我们的名声就是败在你这种死猪头身上了············干!!!!
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:03 | 只看该作者
说的也是% H$ t+ ?/ {# u/ b- _. {. S
现在在大家眼中,基本把承包商和特种部队划等号了
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:06 | 只看该作者
承包商应该是避免介入,而不是主动介入
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-17 23:12 | 只看该作者
壳壳了解的深刻啊······
; H- e4 {" Y" w* H6 g不像胡子一样·······
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:24 | 只看该作者
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~  N( }+ L- Y) c/ U/ C7 w
偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:33 | 只看该作者
原帖由 居士 于 2005-8-17 23:24 发表
- K/ d# {4 I, Y/ j+ n% @但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~$ z  w" {7 o0 B/ d% n
偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~

5 R) c' ^6 w- H+ \$ G& m" ~干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:38 | 只看该作者
找个说法喈
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杀就杀嘛5 Y# m. u5 [$ L4 P; s+ s, {
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又不是见不得人7 A# e" J# y9 j$ @
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这世上人比鬼多
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:41 | 只看该作者
原帖由 potato_esu 于 2005-8-18 01:33 发表8 ~- q5 R0 I/ K

3 L8 ^+ M/ t! W8 N- H8 T干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~

6 G$ Y1 d. t- Q, H7 y) B; \9 v干什么?承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶
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发表于 2005-8-18 02:48 | 只看该作者
那位能翻译一下啊~~~哦土不明白那英文是在说什么?9 u" B3 [4 B! W& t& J* I& j) x$ _4 E

2 d; k  l- f8 o+ f: t不过我到觉得无所谓啊因为是工作,人吗总要讨生活的做什么都是一样的,原则上不鄙视任何工作,实际是还是很喜欢不劳而获!撤远了嘿嘿!~~~~~~~8 X; Q7 ~3 N, v0 h4 o8 b
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让我想起了这里《一个死刑犯的行刑失败》一文中的小老鼠,其实它只是想填饱肚子有什么错呢?人何尝又不是呢???1 m9 s  l# |6 K$ T7 B9 _* A

4 z) c% T0 d8 f" w4 n4 Y对与错只是因为利益的不同而产生!其实什么都没有,真的是世上无一物啊。
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[ 本帖最后由 ksc 于 2005-8-18 02:49 编辑 ]
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发表于 2005-8-18 11:17 | 只看该作者

雷哥,你这帖子有中文版的么?

今时今日这样的服务还是不够di ~
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电视都有双语广播啦~
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4 h( @! X8 L8 T0 [% H+ g; `5 r偶英语差~你原谅偶吧
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发表于 2005-8-18 11:38 | 只看该作者
e文实在不好,看得糊里糊涂的。雷哥有中文版的么?
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:07 | 只看该作者
原帖由 王杰 于 2005-8-18 01:41 发表# x& I  _5 |+ @: k

, r, g: d! E6 u. T9 ?干什么?承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶

5 k+ c( q! D3 [' z$ ]* \如果任务需要~呵呵~呵呵呵
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:13 | 只看该作者
翻译过来大概意思就是“我们不是士兵,我们是受薪去保护我们的客户的安全。”诸如此类
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:18 | 只看该作者
看着好像是行为守则之类的东西,用的口气好象老鸟对新人的教导
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-18 15:02 | 只看该作者
抱歉啊····没有中文的···大意就是D大和壳壳说的了····
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发表于 2005-8-18 16:14 | 只看该作者
来个中文的嘛
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发表于 2005-8-18 17:49 | 只看该作者
艰难阅读中……
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发表于 2005-8-18 18:23 | 只看该作者
翻译,翻译,最近英文水平下降了,又不想查字典,,,,,,
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发表于 2005-8-18 18:49 | 只看该作者
叫大家8要轻易使用武力,8要装骚发浪,要低调。全文的核心意思就素“安全第一”,怎么有点象《方世玉》里的点穴大师的口头禅?
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发表于 2005-8-18 21:36 | 只看该作者
那还要不要“以德服人”?
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-19 13:17 | 只看该作者
因为你带着枪在战争地区,但是这并不能使你成为一个格斗家
& {5 U+ l7 f3 m& m. A$ P2 v6 w实际上你只是一个安全保护专家
7 g& u7 K3 v8 l8 M我工作与一个安全公司,我向我的客户提供安全服务
( L9 h1 E( }3 `2 N我只是在这里有一份工作,我不是来打仗的,我在82空降师的时候就已经在  R: r4 x  Y. Z8 G. K" |; |  N
阿富汗和伊拉克打过仗了,假如你觉得你是战争的一部分,或者你想成为战争的一部分。
' M# ?: P, N) Y+ _6 I& e& \去当兵吧。, a6 t% p( @7 B& q8 e
那么多人在为这个事情争论和迷惑,我发誓他们一定把自己想象成了军事连队
5 A2 y* E$ v1 D1 U我不知道你是不是要去搜索村庄或者准备这样做,但是你只是客人5千块的酬劳4 y& O* C5 i% q7 H7 P  |0 C
来这里干活而已。
- L/ ^) g' }9 T未完··········翻译的不好,让英语高手见笑了·········& a6 R: l% J6 ?& f- X; p' j

& u( t1 y& ^! w% ?- R& [& X4 i7 cNow let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and
* X' J# A( {0 q; f) Q2 `, Y; {all.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me
" d( V. x, `; G* u9 haround safely and without getting shot, killed....etc......
6 f, N" a/ {4 n! B! O, m; H$ c1 U4 B+ _
your solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up
$ f5 S7 r: Z: A8 Dwith other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at
, ^. j9 M) m1 g+ [; ythe the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I
: @; I6 ]  h! V: ?9 g! Wdare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our
; B4 l/ X* W( xcoolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS ! P. i# n* C5 O; V6 H0 G
and bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way,
0 _' O! J" ?' y8 q6 Qthat guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like
- S2 Y! I, U  [9 P% _6 ~) f, ean Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im   |0 c0 H9 \' c
cool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this
( H" [. M  k% C2 c$ Eis war.
2 K( A# D2 a$ a. O! D1 ]% A7 j2 Z. B1 T
But your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior
: x1 r+ u0 ^7 [* Dspirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it 8 _$ Z2 p5 s7 r6 e9 l6 j8 A5 Y
up either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who " ]6 N2 y2 X: m& Y. n& z7 y
couldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that
$ o# S7 ]" l) j) Hyou were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher . q0 I( V; D$ E8 f4 s" E
than high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator"
$ d& L7 K* m. Z1 Ewhatever you are calling yourself today. ) n5 j7 ?  `, x

% p9 T; p" G5 Q; ^; r# Amy point is this........You as a private security contractor are ( }! S3 ]2 u2 X+ `3 _/ _6 {2 c" p' {3 y
just that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase
6 c8 o- B3 u; E/ Y7 f6 Jhim.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your
7 i: t8 |( l! v0 hjob is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out * v8 y% V( ?& {
and start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if
$ _* ?$ h0 c* `0 J2 Cengaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa
( @& C& e' @+ p0 H5 ]there, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we
# y% v: w& w" L  J( w# [& _* zdo is defensive.
* m: @0 P. M  W( ]; q% ?8 M
; L. c  V7 y* k) t0 F7 p; \How many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of 8 j$ j8 q. X' b, `
inexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they
$ z+ X9 B3 W/ @$ C3 Qtoo have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how " L! F7 X8 C9 t* W: j; b5 I
many of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad
7 }* C& W5 L) W5 Z: kwhat they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian. & C5 v' k. B3 k) u( i* z

; M: a, l3 o! G: W* pso because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers,
) l- A, |* b( T; u0 I+ gbecause I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem, & ]' m! {$ I; z& V4 R* {
yet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these 7 X2 [; W  O9 d: G. D
companies? ) B( t4 c9 I5 m4 ^2 U

' T7 r- a) e! a/ ^anyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security & m+ a% {0 i, X- x1 v
professional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem
+ R4 X" P7 V; Y* u. Wto grasp just what your job is!
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:38 | 只看该作者
好吧,我就来个金山翻译版本……哈哈哈; y! U: C9 ^$ S& R6 F

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金山翻译版本已经删除……/ a1 _9 s, y: e" ^
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[ 本帖最后由 酷不理客 于 2005-8-19 16:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:46 | 只看该作者
楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:49 | 只看该作者
原帖由 commandchen 于 2005-8-19 16:46 发表
6 K: H  M8 D4 ~; X" a8 X/ k8 E楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.
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- c' \' J. l2 w开玩笑,金山快译2005专业版……
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:51 | 只看该作者
这种翻译拿出来要扣分
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:53 | 只看该作者
原帖由 金属外壳 于 2005-8-19 16:51 发表0 R8 z8 _* p& `! n9 w, r' w
这种翻译拿出来要扣分

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不是巴,老大,今天下午我可是被扣成饼了
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:55 | 只看该作者
删了,多一事不如少一事,闪阿
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