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发表于 2005-8-17 22:30 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
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2 ^) x9 R: J2 ^Just becuase you are carrying a gun in a war zone, dose not make you
: h2 ?2 m+ ^4 K% F/ O1 @) ~  L' ~) M, Fa combatant "Dude" 9 T" r; Z4 [6 O* H! |

3 r+ J& C8 O) `9 R' mIn fact its that mind set that is gonna kill the "PMC" or the "PSD" $ B0 M( K' [! P% m3 z, H
whatever cool term you can come up with this week. , R5 y  F) s( x) j% b1 x

6 |/ a, z: g' }  d+ O% eI work for a "Security" Company, and thats what I do, i 2 p3 E9 q/ Q7 u( l+ @) d' q% D
provide "security" for our clients.
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I only have one job here, and that is it.......Im not here to fight - ~% ^6 \* y6 ~" i) a  o, x' t% ]. O, F
a war............I did that already, in afghanistan and irag, with
  c1 Q  z( k+ g$ E( x( athe 82nd ABN..........then I was a combatant. if you feel like you
% d1 E9 h+ A! _+ M  x" G0 dare part of the "fight" or wanna be part of the fight.....Join the # r+ |" H3 s  P1 g% u7 ~
freakin army! : q6 W+ f5 R3 q& T9 V! L# w
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So many people roll up and down Route Irish in their "hard" details,
) y* H2 [% L& q. \: {" land i swear they think they are like a military unit....they got on
4 M0 J4 Z& @. C" h( R* xDCU's......just about every thing that "General Jackson" in ; p0 ^$ J* }* h& h% D
fayetteville nc sells these yahoo's have got strapped to them, they
- a. ?! I- }9 Y" ?+ i, z. i& whave their guns out the windows,.....like what are you doing guy?
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are you invading a village I dont know about, are you gonna cordon
$ r  T7 l$ x; j- Y2 ?off and search a village...........Um....No, your taking a paying
. J# m: C& ^6 a! A+ O4 [) lclint on a 5k ride to BIAP, which is about the only part of Iraq,
# ^% M. p; w2 v! a; D$ [other than the IZ that you will see!
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' S$ \/ t2 J* X+ t. UNow let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and
3 \0 ^* S9 [- call.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me
; y6 ?* i8 \) @  `around safely and without getting shot, killed....etc......
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' ^" \$ Z3 x$ M  eyour solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up   f: Q# D9 z8 _1 C2 h
with other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at 2 K4 F* g+ v) A
the the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I
; W6 k% g; B& L+ G, Zdare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our 3 l: W( j$ h# m7 I  m; I( r/ F
coolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS 5 G0 T: G* Z. R' v1 u# g, t0 _
and bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way,
$ N9 F! w9 h( z- V  e$ |that guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like * B1 w4 Z# t' t& x- b; Y) @: b
an Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im
, ~+ I6 ]% U: zcool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this
5 R' h$ Q8 f8 [- i* j" k8 Yis war.
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8 a5 i. ?6 ?; L( O' l% u% ~But your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior 6 C/ y( ]) A9 }! G4 l
spirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it / L* Z( C. p6 Z' i  E& s
up either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who
1 ^; w' K: l8 j5 a" a* l& icouldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that
* T8 T3 c( I' U) A& u9 a) f% j' oyou were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher
8 l# W" S: U( i  j, |/ u7 Q: N  Uthan high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator"
  R# v' j; z. ^0 [( L: Qwhatever you are calling yourself today.
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6 n  u8 B4 E6 O2 ^( J% Tmy point is this........You as a private security contractor are
3 h) ^7 _5 ]9 r$ e" gjust that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase
1 N, G5 p1 R7 {  E0 u1 v* m: Uhim.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your
, b7 }: L: h6 B$ V5 @3 Ejob is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out
' ?( }! W% W# u2 Vand start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if 2 f" I# l1 M# f, d* u
engaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa
& K' B& @5 P$ }( x+ N! p' k# pthere, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we 2 p; E. e9 p; x1 f4 `. h
do is defensive. / X$ r" c  O% Q, N7 d

8 F9 w' z8 R% H6 _+ P. ]How many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of
' O1 w) C5 J4 j# ainexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they
3 w/ ^' e) B2 a5 Ntoo have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how
! ~) P( o4 T  p! H1 c5 mmany of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad
. v% D! ?0 q  A+ z$ hwhat they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian.
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' U' V. K% A+ K; S/ `1 tso because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers,
# r/ [4 J) X- c7 D: m* Xbecause I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem,
, p  d$ @1 Q3 X: c8 X0 U. l) iyet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these
1 L4 I2 c# P& p, Y6 ^0 S+ h" bcompanies? 2 ?$ O+ ^0 A4 h3 u, A

8 j* N  ^' ^+ L/ U$ H' g. Ranyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security + U  w" p  X9 P9 ]/ S- ?
professional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem
' B; e' C2 G! E" o: vto grasp just what your job is!
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发表于 2005-8-17 22:40 | 只看该作者
给杀人的扣过另外顶帽子
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& Z5 l" x$ P2 D8 Q3 A3 W/ v1 L杀就杀嘛
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哪儿来这边么多名堂
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全部杀光光- n) @- v) Z) U9 Z1 r

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杀杀3 @1 O$ q' g, N. U  F% F
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他NND~~干!
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-17 22:45 | 只看该作者
你个猪头············我们的名声就是败在你这种死猪头身上了············干!!!!
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:03 | 只看该作者
说的也是
. _$ @2 w2 b% R4 ^) U现在在大家眼中,基本把承包商和特种部队划等号了
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:06 | 只看该作者
承包商应该是避免介入,而不是主动介入
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-17 23:12 | 只看该作者
壳壳了解的深刻啊······! G  z) y, ]8 N. X& M
不像胡子一样·······
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:24 | 只看该作者
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~
% \& l( K4 Q$ x6 e- x6 |偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:33 | 只看该作者
原帖由 居士 于 2005-8-17 23:24 发表( k; n  N' }) K# m3 _# J6 F
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~
: \- n9 @( L( ]: e9 q4 K偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~

3 x; u' J" M+ `! w) }; n. N干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:38 | 只看该作者
找个说法喈
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又不是见不得人- h* M5 P3 n$ B5 R2 W) E3 x& \1 g

# q  }* Y) v3 a8 e* t% K这世上人比鬼多: n3 i; E# o# [' z7 n. S  A. o( ~

( s3 c& D% o. J2 k1 g- B  S6 E多杀些
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:41 | 只看该作者
原帖由 potato_esu 于 2005-8-18 01:33 发表
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干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~
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干什么?承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶
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发表于 2005-8-18 02:48 | 只看该作者
那位能翻译一下啊~~~哦土不明白那英文是在说什么?$ c5 z, k/ [- N) ?
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不过我到觉得无所谓啊因为是工作,人吗总要讨生活的做什么都是一样的,原则上不鄙视任何工作,实际是还是很喜欢不劳而获!撤远了嘿嘿!~~~~~~~" e& o$ {& w2 ], w3 t# m

( J; l8 [5 J$ `7 [! P让我想起了这里《一个死刑犯的行刑失败》一文中的小老鼠,其实它只是想填饱肚子有什么错呢?人何尝又不是呢???  U! z; f$ s9 p( |

( c/ G0 l' F/ |( V. c' U" Q. U对与错只是因为利益的不同而产生!其实什么都没有,真的是世上无一物啊。$ x( Q! [* H' @* b4 R+ T. I" c

5 a! {8 N( }8 h( Q[ 本帖最后由 ksc 于 2005-8-18 02:49 编辑 ]
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发表于 2005-8-18 11:17 | 只看该作者

雷哥,你这帖子有中文版的么?

今时今日这样的服务还是不够di ~1 Y  `( P; Z/ @/ h- E! \
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电视都有双语广播啦~
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& G& F4 B- z7 q" A1 ?# H& u5 a* d偶英语差~你原谅偶吧
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发表于 2005-8-18 11:38 | 只看该作者
e文实在不好,看得糊里糊涂的。雷哥有中文版的么?
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:07 | 只看该作者
原帖由 王杰 于 2005-8-18 01:41 发表
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干什么?承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶
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如果任务需要~呵呵~呵呵呵
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:13 | 只看该作者
翻译过来大概意思就是“我们不是士兵,我们是受薪去保护我们的客户的安全。”诸如此类
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:18 | 只看该作者
看着好像是行为守则之类的东西,用的口气好象老鸟对新人的教导
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-18 15:02 | 只看该作者
抱歉啊····没有中文的···大意就是D大和壳壳说的了····
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发表于 2005-8-18 16:14 | 只看该作者
来个中文的嘛
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发表于 2005-8-18 17:49 | 只看该作者
艰难阅读中……
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发表于 2005-8-18 18:23 | 只看该作者
翻译,翻译,最近英文水平下降了,又不想查字典,,,,,,
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发表于 2005-8-18 18:49 | 只看该作者
叫大家8要轻易使用武力,8要装骚发浪,要低调。全文的核心意思就素“安全第一”,怎么有点象《方世玉》里的点穴大师的口头禅?
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发表于 2005-8-18 21:36 | 只看该作者
那还要不要“以德服人”?
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-19 13:17 | 只看该作者
因为你带着枪在战争地区,但是这并不能使你成为一个格斗家
6 u" W4 N4 I8 Q实际上你只是一个安全保护专家
. Z- O  w' C' s$ _; }我工作与一个安全公司,我向我的客户提供安全服务
# P" B: z: `  p7 p- V3 o我只是在这里有一份工作,我不是来打仗的,我在82空降师的时候就已经在
* B- a6 w- z" B  k. S% m" J阿富汗和伊拉克打过仗了,假如你觉得你是战争的一部分,或者你想成为战争的一部分。
9 V% |& d! W0 c, O5 B( ?8 @# h3 w去当兵吧。/ _  t' }! Q  A7 b$ I1 p2 T( U
那么多人在为这个事情争论和迷惑,我发誓他们一定把自己想象成了军事连队
: L) z4 i# }3 q& e. t1 L6 P, s我不知道你是不是要去搜索村庄或者准备这样做,但是你只是客人5千块的酬劳
+ \$ `2 m1 Q. y: I% f+ F# p" o来这里干活而已。
; Z; v/ u& t7 `1 {3 b1 M% m未完··········翻译的不好,让英语高手见笑了·········
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Now let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and 8 X+ U2 `* r: n
all.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me 4 R' C* M" ]& g1 l0 i% b6 A
around safely and without getting shot, killed....etc...... 0 e1 P* |( `* j; S/ k  a

# G6 u' a5 k! k$ P1 T* G" cyour solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up
0 S2 y/ ]* t6 o9 y& Y# uwith other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at
2 n) P  A7 X- i+ J7 r1 O5 [1 dthe the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I
! P+ T8 [, t% m# r* M* }. Bdare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our 3 A& ?8 Z8 O, \1 B* w
coolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS 4 K7 w$ S. L* I' {9 H1 Z
and bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way,
( S( V! t' O1 i3 k* b7 vthat guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like , {* o1 @; O  n  W" K* }! T9 d
an Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im
+ @' p" T# W* ~cool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this 0 ?& \4 ]' d' O
is war.
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But your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior
& t7 N3 p( S0 C9 s% ]+ E) u# cspirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it
  `/ q& ]8 ^# Y* M! rup either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who + N% F! {. S- P: W, i" _2 f
couldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that
1 f2 l# Q+ K6 m- K! W! |5 k. Tyou were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher
1 q1 Q/ p$ a! N  U6 Pthan high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator" 0 c0 B. l, `% @" _% l' G, A, u. }
whatever you are calling yourself today.
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5 S/ f2 o- D: g1 ?6 Q- z# i, F  {my point is this........You as a private security contractor are ; a3 x& t7 |1 x/ t, D
just that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase ; @3 v) g& f8 t! @
him.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your ! u0 I! F$ x2 _: ~! i# y% E
job is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out ! D; Q, e  t. U4 V
and start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if , b& @( r2 q+ }: q# ~) ^
engaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa / m, [/ c  u! X8 U8 n, F0 ^
there, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we
* h0 S* e* k3 G4 M) B7 A2 Mdo is defensive.
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How many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of : v" C) e" W: {/ m; A$ B' h: P
inexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they
* C6 s, |4 \% A8 T" F  i' dtoo have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how
# i- ~* o) P0 C  |many of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad 5 c$ ^/ Y7 @- [+ ]' m$ H+ u* D
what they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian. ! F  O* T  `" F
, O' ]9 p, p0 N' X% E1 e
so because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers,
$ a3 ^: i4 G- G. p) q: rbecause I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem, . t+ Z4 b- ]3 u5 I" _
yet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these 4 o& h: ~, n1 `
companies?   L$ Z7 y9 y$ q; k# e5 B

" v+ F' {* y7 {, a+ f8 ~, \& q9 o: ^anyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security ' r: d! W0 `8 ?
professional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem
* F7 w( Q# e# I6 u: ?to grasp just what your job is!
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:38 | 只看该作者
好吧,我就来个金山翻译版本……哈哈哈6 q+ {+ Q5 [& ^4 [
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金山翻译版本已经删除……$ a0 R1 R; ^$ D, F; c; b

( M6 h, o' x, h; {, M( L+ ][ 本帖最后由 酷不理客 于 2005-8-19 16:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:46 | 只看该作者
楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:49 | 只看该作者
原帖由 commandchen 于 2005-8-19 16:46 发表
3 ?% e4 x1 R: B0 r, Y; p! f) X+ U楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.

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开玩笑,金山快译2005专业版……
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:51 | 只看该作者
这种翻译拿出来要扣分
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:53 | 只看该作者
原帖由 金属外壳 于 2005-8-19 16:51 发表5 z3 |  k8 U5 C. x! c% M
这种翻译拿出来要扣分

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; q) N, e( w  ?1 z+ m) s- u/ H不是巴,老大,今天下午我可是被扣成饼了
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:55 | 只看该作者
删了,多一事不如少一事,闪阿
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