转的新闻：Marines Decline Extra Armor

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Marines Decline Extra Armor

Associated Press  |  March 27, 2006





HUSAYBAH, Iraq - Extra body armor - the lack of which caused a political storm in the United States - has flooded in to Iraq, but many Marines here promptly stuck it in lockers or under bunks. Too heavy and cumbersome, many say.

Marines already carry loads as heavy as 70 pounds when they patrol the dangerous streets in towns and villages in restive Anbar province. The new armor plates, while only about five pounds per set, are not worth carrying for the additional safety they are said to provide, some say.

"We have to climb over walls and go through windows," said Sgt. Justin Shank of Greencastle, Pa. "I understand the more armor, the safer you are. But it makes you slower. People don't understand that this is combat and people are going to die."

Staff Sgt. Thomas Bain of Buffalo, N.Y., shared concerns about the extra pounds.

"Before you know it, they're going to get us injured because we're hauling too much weight and don't have enough mobility to maneuver in a fight from house to house," said Bain, who is assigned to the 3rd Battalion, 6th Marine Regiment. "I think we're starting to go overboard on the armor."

Since the insurgency erupted in Iraq, the Pentagon has been criticized for supplying insufficient armor for Humvees and too few bulletproof vests. In one remarkable incident, Soldiers publicly confronted Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld about the problem on live television.

Hometown groups across the United States have since raised money to send extra armor to troops, and the Pentagon, under congressional pressure, launched a program last October to reimburse troops who had purchased armor with their own money.

Soldiers and their parents spent hundreds, sometimes thousand of dollars, on armor until the Pentagon began issuing the new protective gear.

In Bain's platoon of about 35 men, Marines said only three or four wore the plates after commanders distributed them last month and told them that use was optional.

Top military officials, including Secretary of the Army Francis Harvey, acknowledge the concerns over weight and mobility but have urged that the new gear be mandatory.

"That's going to add weight, of course," said Harvey. "You've read where certain Soldiers aren't happy about that. But we think it's in their best interest to do this."

Marines have shown a special aversion to the new plates because they tend to patrol on foot, sometimes conducting two patrols each day that last several hours. They feel the extra weight.

In Euphrates River cities from Ramadi and Romanna, lance corporals to captains have complained about the added weight and lack of mobility. But some commanders have refused to listen. In the former insurgent stronghold of Fallujah, for example, commanders require use of the plates. End of story.

The Marine Corps has said a total of 28,000 sets of the plates, officially called small-arms protective inserts, or side SAPIs, will be in combat zones by April. The Army has said it is hoping to have 230,000 sets of plates in the field this year.

Last year, a study by the Armed Forces Medical Examiner said dozens of Marines killed by wounds to the torso might have survived had the larger plates been in use.

"I'm sure people who ... lost kidneys would have loved to have had them on," said 2nd Lt. William Oren, a native of Southlake, Texas, who wears the plates. "More armor isn't the answer to all our problems. But I'll recommend them because it's more protection."

Some Marines have chosen to wear the plates, particularly those in more vulnerable jobs such as Humvees turret gunners or those who frequently travel on roads plagued by roadside bombs.

But many Marines - particularly those who conduct foot patrols also carrying weapons, extra ammunition, medical equipment, night vision goggles, food and water - say the extra armor is not worth it, especially when the weather becomes unbearably hot.

"When you already have 60, 70 pounds on and you add 10 pounds when you go patrolling through the city or chasing after bad guys, that extra 10 pounds is going to make a difference. You're going to feel it," said Lance Cpl. David Partridge from Bangor, Maine.

Many Marines, however, believe the politics of the issue eventually will make the plates mandatory.

"The reason they issued (the plates), I think, is to make people back home feel better," said Lance Cpl. Philip Tootle of Reidsville, Ga. "I'm not wishing they wouldn't have issued them. I'm just wishing that they wouldn't make them mandatory."

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jason-lee

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eyehategod

原帖由 jason-lee 于 2006-3-31 23:10 发表
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jason-lee

原帖由 eyehategod 于 2006-4-3 15:43 发表


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eyehategod

原帖由 jason-lee 于 2006-4-3 17:05 发表


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pk-king

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jason-lee

原帖由 eyehategod 于 2006-4-3 18:55 发表


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KSK精英

HUSAYBAH, Iraq - Extra body armor - the lack of which caused a political storm in the United States - has flooded in to Iraq, but many Marines here promptly stuck it in lockers or under bunks. Too heavy and cumbersome, many say.

Marines already carry loads as heavy as 70 pounds when they patrol the dangerous streets in towns and villages in restive Anbar province. The new armor plates, while only about five pounds per set, are not worth carrying for the additional safety they are said to provide, some say.

"We have to climb over walls and go through windows," said Sgt. Justin Shank of Greencastle, Pa. "I understand the more armor, the safer you are. But it makes you slower. People don't understand that this is combat and people are going to die."

Staff Sgt. Thomas Bain of Buffalo, N.Y., shared concerns about the extra pounds.


在美国导致了一场政治风暴的的附加防弹衣,已经大量地涌入了伊拉克.然而,许多陆战队员又迅速地把它塞到了箱子里和床铺底下.许多人说,它太笨重了...

当陆战队员们在Anbar省村镇的危险的街道上巡逻时,每个人的负荷已经达到了70磅.一些队员说,尽管每块新式的防弹板只有5磅,但是却没有带来它所说能够提供的安全感.

"有时候我们不得不翻过墙或者跳过窗户."来自于宾州Greencastle的Justin Shank中士说."我可以理解防护越重,你就越安全,但它会使你变得行动缓慢.大家不会理解这就是所谓的战斗,而且许多人将会丧命."

来自纽约州的Thomas Bain 上士对于(防弹衣)多余的重量也表示了忧虑.



先翻译这些,占个位以后继续...

[ 本帖最后由 KSK精英 于 2006-4-4 17:31 编辑 ]

jason-lee

Before you know it, they're going to get us injured because we're hauling too much weight and don't have enough mobility to maneuver in a fight from house to house," said Bain, who is assigned to the 3rd Battalion, 6th Marine Regiment. "I think we're starting to go overboard on the armor

“在你明白之前，他们已经使我们受到伤害，在那些房屋与房屋之间的战斗中，因为我们拖着太多的负重而没有足够的灵活性和机动能力。”BAIN说道，这是谁分配给第6陆战团第3营的呢？“我想我们的装甲已经开始过重了”

Since the insurgency erupted in Iraq, the Pentagon has been criticized for supplying insufficient armor for Humvees and too few bulletproof vests. In one remarkable incident, Soldiers publicly confronted Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld about the problem on live television

自伊拉克的暴乱爆发以来，五角大楼已经指责后勤补给上对于悍马吉普的装甲防护的不足，并且只能提供很少的防弹背心，一个值得注意的事件，在实况转播的电视节目中，士兵公然就这个问题的与国防部长唐纳德.拉姆斯菲尔德发生对抗

Hometown groups across the United States have since raised money to send extra armor to troops, and the Pentagon, under congressional pressure, launched a program last October to reimburse troops who had purchased armor with their own money.

士兵的亲友们从美国本土自己花钱购买防弹背心寄到军营去，五角大楼在国会的压力之下计划在10月末之前补偿那些用自己的钱购买防弹背心的士兵


Soldiers and their parents spent hundreds, sometimes thousand of dollars, on armor until the Pentagon began issuing the new protective gear

在五角大楼开始配发新的防护装具之前，士兵和他们的父母已经花费了成百上千的美元

In Bain's platoon of about 35 men, Marines said only three or four wore the plates after commanders distributed them last month and told them that use was optional.

在Bain的排里有大约35个人，陆战队说，在指挥官分排他们任务的最后一个月里他们中只有3-4个人可以选择获得防弹板

[ 本帖最后由 jason-lee 于 2006-4-4 22:23 编辑 ]