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标题: 聊下美国黑水公司,--伊拉克的行动 [打印本页]
作者: victor    时间: 2007-10-12 12:03
标题: 聊下美国黑水公司,--伊拉克的行动
大家聊下美国的黑水公司在伊拉克被限制/取消的新闻吧!
& Y! z0 l4 B) Z6 V3 P前几天凤凰台有个专题报道,说的是美国的党派斗争和黑水公司的发家史,从几个人的小公司,到上千个雇员的大承包商, 估计股东赚发了.3 l& |! _4 i8 k, O+ G3 ?8 O6 I
而且曾经获得在伊拉克的法律豁免权,相当于自由杀人执照哟.3 R6 X, ]: D3 E9 R6 N
最近因为射杀平民,被摆上台了。大家觉得它会否被关掉.?
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5 M! P5 e8 U! w/ J4 EUS security contractor Blackwater has been banned from operating in Iraq after eight civilians were killed in Baghdad yesterday.4 d% Q+ o- e) R- J& m
Blackwater offers personal security to US officials working in Iraq and is one of the better known firms involved in what critics call the privatisation of the war in Iraq.+ [1 t, H, V3 @' f/ @4 X; h
Yesterday, a US diplomatic convoy came under fire in the Iraqi capital's western al-Yarmukh neighbourhood.1 l8 o& E9 @& F
Blackwater members accompanying the convoy returned fire, leaving nine people dead, one of whom was an Iraqi police officer.
" H- k% _  e) sAll of the other fatalities were civilian bystanders.
# W% w! q7 V  h" Z' N9 C' LIraqi Brigadier-General Abdul-Karim Khalaf confirmed that a mortar had landed close to the convoy and said the US firm had 'opened fire randomly at citizens'., V# T* R+ K) b$ c% v
Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki has strongly condemned the company's actions and denounced what he called the criminal response of the US contractors.
, P& |4 o2 k- z3 O' w. P! a& {And today Iraqi Interior Minister Jawad al-Bolani issued an order to cancel Blackwater's licence and prohibit the company from operating anywhere in Iraq." s. ?; Z8 @0 P9 X% K& f" U6 U2 O" P
Mr Bolani also confirmed that a criminal investigation had been launched following the incident.2 J# {4 d+ d- l% {& Y) X
A US embassy official only said that security vehicles of the 'Department of State' were involved in an incident near al-Nissur Square.
% m5 h/ k: L' i: o& ]Blackwater representatives were not immediately available for comment.
/ D( a/ h4 H6 h& ]6 G6 e0 E4 BThousands of private security contractors, many of them US and European, have worked in Iraq since the US-led invasion in 2003.3 w6 O5 U0 n) f
Following a number of similar incidents in recent years, foreign private security firms have been accused of operating outside the law with little or no accountability either to the Iraqi government or US military forces.
作者: Berk    时间: 2007-10-12 12:19
肯定是给上头的月例银子没交足
作者: Kane_Schen    时间: 2007-10-12 12:35
关掉不会，就是罚款。
作者: guming    时间: 2007-10-12 12:42
伊拉克发给黑水法律豁免权的人肯定吃了钱的，估计不会这么快就把自己的经济来源断了。
作者: jacker    时间: 2007-10-12 13:25
这个帖子 雷哥会不会来涅
作者: laokui    时间: 2007-10-12 14:24
呼唤雷哥出来
作者: fansonic    时间: 2007-10-12 14:28
拜托LZ换个视野考虑下下~~~. [4 d0 H2 Q9 F6 @# [1 }
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比如霉菌在海外枪杀无辜平民的事情多了去了，那么霉菌会不会解散编制？？
作者: victor    时间: 2007-10-12 15:20
标题: 私人组织毕竟相当与雇佣军
虽然潜规则是这样的,大家都明白,但是毕竟这种事情上不得台面讨论的呀.
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Monday, Sep. 17, 2007 By ADAM ZAGORIN AND BRIAN BENNETT/WASHINGTON  Members of the private security firm Blackwater escort U.S. administrator in Iraq Paul Bremer to a helicopter. ; N. T0 w. s; ^" q4 \2 k% X
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Iraq's cabinet met Tuesday for roughly one hour and discussed the role of security companies in the wake of a violent incident in Baghdad Sunday when a U.S. convoy protected by Blackwater contractors killed a reported eight Iraqis and wounded others. According to a senior Iraqi official who spoke to TIME, the cabinet decided to uphold a previous decision by the Minister of the Interior to suspend Blackwater's license. According to the senior official, Blackwater will be allowed to continue to operate inside the Green Zone, which includes the U.S. embassy and Iraqi government offices. But "they will not be allowed to leave the Green Zone," said the senior official.- B* ~& W( C* C, e

2 E2 {3 G7 @9 W- @7 A[ 本帖最后由 victor 于 2007-10-12 15:21 编辑 ]
作者: dc_b4-MC    时间: 2007-10-12 16:34
伊拉克限制黑水的活动还不算太糟,可是要是国务院取消了和约,
8 v0 q5 W$ K- V那黑水的饭碗问题真正大了啊
作者: fatrix    时间: 2007-10-12 17:25
black water这下可以改名字叫back water了
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中文意思系........回水...............
作者: jason-lee    时间: 2007-10-12 23:23
何必杞人忧天呢？
* k8 E! ~' G( r  |黑水只不过是伊拉克政府说要取消执照，又不是美国政府要取消他的执照，搞什么飞机...再说参议院要立法审查私人保安公司只不过是为了明年的大选作准备，找了个借口而已，又不是当真不需要私人保安公司了，在伊拉克的上千名外交官的安全可都是黑水之类的公司负担的，还没有算那些有着大把政府合约的各类公司财团的安全保卫任务，那4万多私人武装不是说吊销执照就可以立马打发他们回国的....
作者: gundam_2004    时间: 2007-10-13 01:02
原帖由 jason-lee 于 2007-10-12 23:23 发表 - p* b! B' }- w! w9 ~& z7 A3 Q  Z
何必杞人忧天呢？) K" G; m/ i% ^% G+ q
黑水只不过是伊拉克政府说要取消执照，又不是美国政府要取消他的执照，搞什么飞机...再说参议院要立法审查私人保安公司只不过是为了明年的大选作准备，找了个借口而已，又不是当真不需要私人 ...
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6 B4 H0 }6 ]; i5 D+ V) hchina人民就是喜欢搞飞机啊~~~JASON说的是正解
作者: 姑娘真漂亮    时间: 2007-10-13 05:03
正常现象!!!
作者: rigel    时间: 2007-10-14 23:15
不会有结果的·············具体原因就不说了，黑水那帮家伙让人眼红了而已·······
作者: lucifer-xu    时间: 2007-10-17 07:37
解散不了的,就象我们整天叫和谐一样的
作者: rigel    时间: 2007-10-17 09:51
Blackwater Worldwide Founder and CEO Erik Prince stands his ground against critics as he begins a series of unprecedented appearances on the national talk show circuit. Since September 16th's attack in Bagdad on a Blackwater caravan carrying an American diplomat, Prince's Blackwater security contractors have come under fire amidst a developing debate about the contracting industry in a hot political climate. Mr. Prince has already given a revealing interview with CBS' 60 Minutes and will continue to answer questions for various media outlets while setting the record straight and clearing the names of those who work for him. All his comments can be found by searching YouTube where supporters of Blackwater have placed the various interviews, search "Erik Prince interviews".$ q; e. [) a. v# S! ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYrloF4SXdE
作者: jason-lee    时间: 2007-10-17 10:20
正如上面所说的：“政治气候...”
3 U7 u+ |; p% w1 c大环境和几年前不同了，风水轮流转嘛，再风光的也有收手的一天....这个产业已经开始走下坡路了...除非有新的热点地区出现....
作者: 蓝皓    时间: 2007-10-17 10:22
只要有战争，私人保全公司就不会解散。
作者: xiaomi    时间: 2007-10-17 16:40
其实站在黑水的角度想想也可以理解, 要是那个地方时不时有穿着平民服装的人埋个路边炸弹炸我或者是拿RPG轰我的话, 我肯定也是见着可疑的就先打了再说.
作者: jzcq    时间: 2007-10-18 04:08
是不是我在这里说一些我个人对于Ａ国及其ＰＭＣ在某些地区的某些行为的看法，是属于不和谐内容的言论，并且会给论坛带来麻烦？如果会，我就不说了．
作者: jason-lee    时间: 2007-10-18 09:57
标题: 说吧....
原帖由 jzcq 于 2007-10-18 04:08 发表 8 n0 b' H3 o) E% Q
是不是我在这里说一些我个人对于Ａ国及其ＰＭＣ在某些地区的某些行为的看法，是属于不和谐内容的言论，并且会给论坛带来麻烦？如果会，我就不说了．
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% H2 o- r" q& U: r看你说啥了。不要和十七 大内容相抵触，不要公开反 党反社 会主义体制，不要支持台 湾西 藏新 疆等地区的独立，不要妄图扩大人民内部矛盾，不要发表与当前宪法以及相关法律法规所命令禁止的言论即可..... 总之，不要扯到中国，不要政治化....
作者: ACESNIPER    时间: 2007-10-18 11:26
黑水的内部培训教材可以拿来研究一下，呵呵
作者: jzcq    时间: 2007-10-18 16:10
仔细想了一下,我想说的似乎都不会涉及到红字的内容....但还是算了,我写自己BLOG里吧,不给论坛惹麻烦.
作者: p5^_^    时间: 2007-10-19 03:11
原帖由 rigel 于 2007-10-14 23:15 发表
. C# u- ]* h, L* e% {不会有结果的·············具体原因就不说了，黑水那帮家伙让人眼红了而已·······
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那倒是的，的确对他们影响不大。可是这次会不会给了其它公司一些拓展伊拉克业务的机会呢？或是黑水将一些业务判给其它公司这类的。



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