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标题: 一个军事承包商的发言，并且为承包商正名····· [打印本页]
作者: rigel    时间: 2005-8-17 22:30
标题: 一个军事承包商的发言，并且为承包商正名·····
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( K% l, e: n5 T' q$ f. {. y; G* {. mJust becuase you are carrying a gun in a war zone, dose not make you
1 {. g0 F# I5 V9 ]a combatant "Dude" " M0 E: ^; }, A5 H) {1 X; K

6 i/ U4 E6 F7 P7 HIn fact its that mind set that is gonna kill the "PMC" or the "PSD" $ b, f3 ^% O0 l, }
whatever cool term you can come up with this week. $ F- T  l% Y% i% K. [
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I work for a "Security" Company, and thats what I do, i
$ V; c! C9 r  J- n' f0 `provide "security" for our clients.
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I only have one job here, and that is it.......Im not here to fight
2 J) }7 }: D% w! M" x2 g, Ta war............I did that already, in afghanistan and irag, with 0 g8 ^$ h5 m: z; A# q. A
the 82nd ABN..........then I was a combatant. if you feel like you
" b( p3 x8 K" Q5 U; ~  Eare part of the "fight" or wanna be part of the fight.....Join the
; B( q% w* g) t! x  [  c  ?9 H- d/ n2 yfreakin army!
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7 \1 ?( |6 `( r( F3 {9 Q, b& v: PSo many people roll up and down Route Irish in their "hard" details, ; e2 d5 C7 S- M) N# k% e6 D4 C
and i swear they think they are like a military unit....they got on 4 P. l% W. c7 y8 O
DCU's......just about every thing that "General Jackson" in ( E0 W4 x1 j$ G2 `6 t% V. y3 U
fayetteville nc sells these yahoo's have got strapped to them, they * O; I3 J- P2 E2 Z& I# b: E
have their guns out the windows,.....like what are you doing guy?
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are you invading a village I dont know about, are you gonna cordon
2 {, _5 g, n" `" \+ N' w5 woff and search a village...........Um....No, your taking a paying
/ M" N& Z( y# |7 [. f3 P6 {" `clint on a 5k ride to BIAP, which is about the only part of Iraq, " _, d; K7 y) ?) x8 J4 b. @% Z1 m! I
other than the IZ that you will see!
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" B& M9 Y# C1 w# M+ E8 `5 {Now let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and 8 `' K$ J" L# p0 A& F
all.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me
4 s1 `" S6 }5 h& f) _7 l% Paround safely and without getting shot, killed....etc...... . N* U- X0 U$ R+ m
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your solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up
2 p9 v! g9 D8 A# U% Y/ ^with other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at
% e7 p; N+ Q; J, D# ^the the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I
% ~; X, Q! s* U. E) H4 H% pdare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our
" C& a8 q1 h7 E7 C" B5 R6 r& j* b# Wcoolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS 6 F' q( F) {/ D1 T
and bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way,
& k% e. i6 a, S+ ~. N* J" tthat guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like 8 d2 T' O" O" ?; J* S
an Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im 6 X# d: Y+ e) |, U7 x% D
cool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this 7 `4 B7 n) W: e1 k8 Y* L3 F% g9 q
is war. 1 R% d0 _6 V! o4 C  c/ J
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But your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior + j; ~! f0 a: P! k6 C9 M, J$ h
spirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it 3 j; y2 L! D* b( m
up either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who * w* G2 L0 J' S. i1 D+ u6 s/ _! H
couldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that
3 T6 Q: X% g' y# ^, F. K* |you were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher
* G1 ~+ L0 k9 Mthan high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator"
- f# B0 L7 t5 q; Uwhatever you are calling yourself today. & D: B: [7 s7 a5 G
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my point is this........You as a private security contractor are
& A2 @& p$ v# T6 k  G. wjust that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase
$ M# F/ `) r; b* h* a$ Rhim.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your
8 V! c. g" H3 c$ M  i6 z! [; tjob is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out
- R) O! q: n& }/ `" O9 r/ nand start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if
6 o, |( y+ R. P3 e$ C. v3 j& xengaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa
9 @! x9 y5 _1 p) r$ _/ G4 X; ethere, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we
1 L; ^: I4 R5 v7 Ndo is defensive. " q/ D/ g2 N  q, a" b4 n+ P4 J3 w

- q7 t6 t: m6 g) E  M+ KHow many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of
; ~: q* l& a3 ?, N( F' pinexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they ' r6 U/ P, @1 e# q6 b
too have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how 5 f. v2 f8 ^/ ?0 W
many of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad . s# T) M! ~, y5 t& L2 v
what they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian. & j( V0 N8 U+ J: [
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so because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers,
  y7 Q1 e: K. V" C; L/ abecause I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem, / m3 [, X$ S! |/ i9 Z
yet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these 9 T$ m9 S1 b' }
companies?
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" `- P2 L! q: t% X: Z6 zanyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security
, b6 [% ^! o9 y* W% Oprofessional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem , ?7 ]7 M( u3 V7 S& B# c* }
to grasp just what your job is!
作者: 王杰    时间: 2005-8-17 22:40
给杀人的扣过另外顶帽子
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杀就杀嘛
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哪儿来这边么多名堂/ _8 z- q5 A+ Y" A8 G; ^
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. m6 y- f+ _+ Q9 o; E3 ~2 z全部杀光光
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) F& ?. @4 C, I* ?' \  c' x哈哈+ \$ I" ?- K$ v7 w0 z' h
杀杀$ B2 v/ I" O: K+ L  k( @

! j9 Y! I# _# G; f, h他NND~~干！
作者: rigel    时间: 2005-8-17 22:45
你个猪头············我们的名声就是败在你这种死猪头身上了············干！！！！
作者: 金属外壳    时间: 2005-8-17 23:03
说的也是  ?# j( F5 ^) M# \! u
现在在大家眼中，基本把承包商和特种部队划等号了
作者: 金属外壳    时间: 2005-8-17 23:06
承包商应该是避免介入，而不是主动介入
作者: rigel    时间: 2005-8-17 23:12
壳壳了解的深刻啊······
( _& k/ b! d5 a" V" g3 b" p& s8 x9 P不像胡子一样·······
作者: 居士    时间: 2005-8-17 23:24
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~
  N  ]0 m* w! V( \偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~
作者: potato_esu    时间: 2005-8-18 01:33
原帖由 居士 于 2005-8-17 23:24 发表+ W. B7 y5 V. z* `* L8 Y
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~
+ T% R) ?) @3 L" P" E偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~

6 Q5 v1 h( F- q0 D6 z/ T. S* W干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~
作者: 王杰    时间: 2005-8-18 01:38
找个说法喈
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, F: d+ f, Z: @杀就杀嘛
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+ i/ A- G7 i* G8 a1 U又不是见不得人
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7 S/ g& W' ~' s7 \: d这世上人比鬼多) C( M# |' r# ?" j5 S
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多杀些
作者: 王杰    时间: 2005-8-18 01:41
原帖由 potato_esu 于 2005-8-18 01:33 发表
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  d0 |- H( ^+ j+ u8 O干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~

+ b8 u/ }# d) D) R5 F- h5 }干什么？承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶
作者: ksc    时间: 2005-8-18 02:48
那位能翻译一下啊~~~哦土不明白那英文是在说什么？" H. h1 J3 Y6 A" I  x; L

* D. R% g- R6 L  K- X不过我到觉得无所谓啊因为是工作，人吗总要讨生活的做什么都是一样的，原则上不鄙视任何工作，实际是还是很喜欢不劳而获！撤远了嘿嘿！~~~~~~~; T" `2 Y" M/ G# N4 R# e7 ]: C, I

; n$ P+ g- J% U. Z5 |- W, k让我想起了这里《一个死刑犯的行刑失败》一文中的小老鼠，其实它只是想填饱肚子有什么错呢？人何尝又不是呢？？？, ?; w' m- f3 u, m- F# Q5 z" K4 }6 T

2 X& J( ?" X. p8 R2 G8 p# j6 N对与错只是因为利益的不同而产生！其实什么都没有，真的是世上无一物啊。
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0 Y4 Z/ l9 ?& _5 G" e[ 本帖最后由 ksc 于 2005-8-18 02:49 编辑 ]
作者: KK    时间: 2005-8-18 11:17
标题: 雷哥,你这帖子有中文版的么?
今时今日这样的服务还是不够di ~! T) h2 J" u  k5 W3 V

5 m- x1 a0 f9 \电视都有双语广播啦~
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$ F. s) }. k6 [4 m  ^; H- T偶英语差~你原谅偶吧
作者: yqw8422    时间: 2005-8-18 11:38
e文实在不好，看得糊里糊涂的。雷哥有中文版的么？
作者: potato_esu    时间: 2005-8-18 14:07
原帖由 王杰 于 2005-8-18 01:41 发表6 `$ Y* n2 T% c6 E# K% ^

' B  A( u& z8 t干什么？承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶

. g5 I0 J' R( k/ V# W如果任务需要~呵呵~呵呵呵
作者: dboy    时间: 2005-8-18 14:13
翻译过来大概意思就是“我们不是士兵，我们是受薪去保护我们的客户的安全。”诸如此类
作者: 金属外壳    时间: 2005-8-18 14:18
看着好像是行为守则之类的东西，用的口气好象老鸟对新人的教导
作者: rigel    时间: 2005-8-18 15:02
抱歉啊····没有中文的···大意就是D大和壳壳说的了····
作者: 玩狗一族    时间: 2005-8-18 16:14
来个中文的嘛
作者: KlauB    时间: 2005-8-18 17:49
艰难阅读中……
作者: fisher    时间: 2005-8-18 18:23
翻译，翻译，最近英文水平下降了，又不想查字典，，，，，，
作者: 豺狼    时间: 2005-8-18 18:49
叫大家8要轻易使用武力，8要装骚发浪，要低调。全文的核心意思就素“安全第一”，怎么有点象《方世玉》里的点穴大师的口头禅？
作者: jam    时间: 2005-8-18 21:36
那还要不要“以德服人”？
作者: rigel    时间: 2005-8-19 13:17
因为你带着枪在战争地区，但是这并不能使你成为一个格斗家
4 K& U4 ~  K$ n8 d5 v实际上你只是一个安全保护专家
9 v) L: B, U' A% `- j( L' L我工作与一个安全公司，我向我的客户提供安全服务
: N; X8 n2 f, x4 C# H2 a) @3 S我只是在这里有一份工作，我不是来打仗的，我在82空降师的时候就已经在
5 K, h. a1 F9 u, u+ R阿富汗和伊拉克打过仗了，假如你觉得你是战争的一部分，或者你想成为战争的一部分。
; H4 h  f+ ^& c" O: P. x去当兵吧。
$ G2 K; f# z7 X* s# g0 H& f那么多人在为这个事情争论和迷惑，我发誓他们一定把自己想象成了军事连队" s8 N+ Z# P$ n# Y: i, M
我不知道你是不是要去搜索村庄或者准备这样做，但是你只是客人5千块的酬劳
: f1 j: Y% c: ?/ l0 K% i来这里干活而已。
( p( E$ P& M! Y1 H, K9 i3 N1 k未完··········翻译的不好，让英语高手见笑了·········2 T) w2 ~. b7 W( [1 l$ }3 z5 K; l

% ]0 ^( x8 C  fNow let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and
6 ]  T7 u" S/ |all.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me
, u/ c0 @5 D, ~6 ]7 a' Raround safely and without getting shot, killed....etc......
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your solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up 7 Y$ O, p  x2 f, ~+ N* [% x3 i: i
with other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at
) R$ x& H+ @0 Q5 K% Zthe the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I
9 v7 G- P2 l5 s0 Q+ f& T2 a' S3 K$ N+ \dare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our 2 z2 b9 N8 U/ D* D
coolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS 0 l' y, q5 E- @2 T
and bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way,
5 Z& P; b  [7 Q6 t; u4 M/ ethat guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like 0 a; E) w/ P& H( U; r9 _/ r/ k
an Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im
; \/ o* t# N* Q$ y4 Ecool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this / L/ w8 b  K& u, Z$ Z" U" n
is war. , E. ~1 C' X9 z7 c% ]; o

$ M, N% ^! I) G. |/ d+ C  ZBut your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior 6 ~/ D2 W: q( a/ J' A
spirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it
( Q5 y! o2 K# F, ^up either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who
3 Q6 J* f& W& N3 @4 h3 l  dcouldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that - W  y; o* O( S* ^
you were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher
- r# B) t0 ]3 K# G1 P$ }; Sthan high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator" : U3 E; r2 ^$ e; v# @' K
whatever you are calling yourself today. ; _- y* n" p; G9 p$ T1 e6 i

5 j. X* Y$ x4 u7 E" e4 P. x- t2 o7 Kmy point is this........You as a private security contractor are ; s' b0 G) H1 b
just that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase
$ M/ p' a+ ~# Rhim.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your   k" ^) {1 }, J# A( B, T  b  u
job is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out
& x6 N6 `+ B0 J, h' |1 d$ }and start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if & E* l( n; _4 W; h. R
engaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa
! r& ^  Q2 O& a& o0 {) d. X" ithere, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we
! v0 r  E4 c. P' E. fdo is defensive.
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' o  e  F' F* d: F$ i1 QHow many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of
9 x& x4 n' x2 q: b( Oinexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they
: B4 E( ^; k# i3 etoo have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how
  w7 r" ]1 _9 @many of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad
' F/ F# ?& }, ~what they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian. : D# x4 F; ]5 b- h) V  ~1 s7 M
9 x9 o1 D% P* t& B8 Q
so because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers,
5 k3 x! R2 o* I# R2 ibecause I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem,
2 }9 q/ i3 S% A( E4 Oyet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these
6 T& [9 V. c# Ucompanies? + o) F7 q; i: C# y0 _0 D( D% t
* \6 `8 ^, S, X  ^/ J% }$ e7 R9 z
anyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security
! R# A3 P/ P+ @7 k# T' Jprofessional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem 4 W/ `$ {3 a: _- k3 K- g
to grasp just what your job is!
作者: 酷不理客    时间: 2005-8-19 16:38
好吧，我就来个金山翻译版本……哈哈哈
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金山翻译版本已经删除……$ s7 W# c& _9 {$ Z0 w  H
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[ 本帖最后由 酷不理客 于 2005-8-19 16:54 编辑 ]
作者: commandchen    时间: 2005-8-19 16:46
楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.
作者: 酷不理客    时间: 2005-8-19 16:49
原帖由 commandchen 于 2005-8-19 16:46 发表
0 C# b/ R! `7 u楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.
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9 J: x+ `; V2 S/ B开玩笑，金山快译2005专业版……
作者: 金属外壳    时间: 2005-8-19 16:51
这种翻译拿出来要扣分
作者: 酷不理客    时间: 2005-8-19 16:53
原帖由 金属外壳 于 2005-8-19 16:51 发表- t$ \- O* m7 u1 _' N+ _
这种翻译拿出来要扣分

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不是巴，老大，今天下午我可是被扣成饼了
作者: 酷不理客    时间: 2005-8-19 16:55
删了，多一事不如少一事，闪阿



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