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标题: 一个军事承包商的发言，并且为承包商正名····· [打印本页]
作者: rigel    时间: 2005-8-17 22:30
标题: 一个军事承包商的发言，并且为承包商正名·····
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. @# n5 v1 O0 AJust becuase you are carrying a gun in a war zone, dose not make you ; R& {+ r( \/ B$ T- y* J5 z
a combatant "Dude"
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8 }+ A4 C3 L% N) vIn fact its that mind set that is gonna kill the "PMC" or the "PSD" ) s: v" }* T# m9 a. @
whatever cool term you can come up with this week. , d! s: `6 i2 V* l% ]; J1 U1 }

) H0 y" k3 t9 {2 U( W+ w5 nI work for a "Security" Company, and thats what I do, i
9 e5 f% T% I# h. m, Dprovide "security" for our clients.
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, F2 G4 }* R6 aI only have one job here, and that is it.......Im not here to fight
& S" v# `  d1 ua war............I did that already, in afghanistan and irag, with $ B* J/ b( F4 Q1 N0 ~
the 82nd ABN..........then I was a combatant. if you feel like you
" y7 K* N  \- m$ [; f" ]1 ~; }* s' oare part of the "fight" or wanna be part of the fight.....Join the
5 S" Q- n! \$ `, s' j5 R8 P- ?freakin army!
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So many people roll up and down Route Irish in their "hard" details, . P9 }$ d% t! [1 T9 H* b5 ^' J. S
and i swear they think they are like a military unit....they got on
; R, M% S& g7 J0 }; P- [6 bDCU's......just about every thing that "General Jackson" in
! r( A7 V: R. A# X3 e. u7 gfayetteville nc sells these yahoo's have got strapped to them, they
7 T4 V1 V! p" c4 D7 lhave their guns out the windows,.....like what are you doing guy? ! f( `5 N7 d; U. E8 [) E9 n

8 y' W4 K# e, _0 G+ Dare you invading a village I dont know about, are you gonna cordon
9 b* |* Y+ r7 M* V4 ]1 b2 ?7 s) soff and search a village...........Um....No, your taking a paying
/ ]- _( w6 D+ Z+ tclint on a 5k ride to BIAP, which is about the only part of Iraq, # B  m" \9 I4 M6 e& {- J; w+ Y
other than the IZ that you will see!
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Now let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and
  v1 W/ f5 [( m9 ?6 G4 @6 q0 a; Pall.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me 9 j* e6 |# ]3 K/ p2 R8 U; ^
around safely and without getting shot, killed....etc......
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your solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up
$ i  S& P$ f  V4 n/ _+ J  pwith other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at
% S% h" D/ M5 s5 `5 |; lthe the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I ! [: g: n! I/ L8 A' J# Z
dare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our
& i2 y8 v! E& D# a  B7 w9 ^coolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS
& B1 x) }: L1 Pand bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way,
( J6 f- ^  ]3 p  Q, Wthat guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like
- O' K$ ?- O* can Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im
' _8 ~, }; w8 V" A1 r7 ncool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this : ?# w2 M+ z. u, v
is war. ( W+ _& C# G. U8 S! i

, _" A$ }1 }7 p" Q4 F9 D( yBut your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior
, R8 f1 y0 ~$ {* t( V# Mspirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it
5 W* `* F! w; c6 Eup either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who 2 u8 D. z6 h8 Q: g2 Y/ i
couldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that ' M1 ~  l$ b$ m% f1 {$ B0 X
you were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher
5 h/ h4 Y; o( S3 tthan high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator"
' e4 j) ?+ `" [7 _3 H- ]whatever you are calling yourself today. 9 g0 t2 E+ s  X+ o7 z. r! S* n

* N8 _' @+ j/ ?8 rmy point is this........You as a private security contractor are $ Q1 X/ d6 Y' l% z# K
just that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase
: R. m( ?; j3 m- ?& whim.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your
, m" w+ B) f3 @8 @+ t+ R  ?job is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out . R+ r# _1 J5 g% g- X* ^- r0 C
and start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if
9 _  W) t, p5 U, a) {engaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa 3 i- k; x" y& f. L( ^
there, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we $ O* Q* K4 O7 e% n, j9 v
do is defensive. # u4 B$ ^$ @/ Y) o2 |% |8 e# x
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How many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of
# ~; x% F$ Z) ?inexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they
% o# D- z" d, K. y; h6 ~too have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how ! F& i: e$ q2 B8 i8 l2 l
many of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad
7 P3 i8 g1 m- @! Z0 X7 V- _* d2 `what they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian.
& W( @; M, i3 F1 K2 S9 Q0 ?) g& x0 ^+ T* y- |
so because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers,
5 w/ d; c- _! s! [# ~& K- V! }because I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem, . e) _& s. K: E* i0 Q7 P6 w
yet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these % ?) [: x* x8 d
companies? ) \+ @  _8 C- @1 f

8 r% i9 \5 ~+ o& Sanyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security
6 l3 p3 _0 X  p. yprofessional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem
; c, A! R5 M6 c# ]to grasp just what your job is!
作者: 王杰    时间: 2005-8-17 22:40
给杀人的扣过另外顶帽子4 {& J; N, f! f3 k% `) q6 L/ F
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杀就杀嘛
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/ u: T8 L, o8 n" b# z( H& `哪儿来这边么多名堂5 D3 j" C1 t" D( m- ^

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# c  \, y; K% X' M; ?全部杀光光
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哈哈
' p* T) I0 W$ k( k2 N$ H/ p杀杀
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他NND~~干！
作者: rigel    时间: 2005-8-17 22:45
你个猪头············我们的名声就是败在你这种死猪头身上了············干！！！！
作者: 金属外壳    时间: 2005-8-17 23:03
说的也是( t* c" W1 f( X; K  b% G* n
现在在大家眼中，基本把承包商和特种部队划等号了
作者: 金属外壳    时间: 2005-8-17 23:06
承包商应该是避免介入，而不是主动介入
作者: rigel    时间: 2005-8-17 23:12
壳壳了解的深刻啊······
2 w: L2 [! i9 G( ?; u不像胡子一样·······
作者: 居士    时间: 2005-8-17 23:24
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~
7 E5 y% d6 v! W4 M6 l# q$ I0 c偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~
作者: potato_esu    时间: 2005-8-18 01:33
原帖由 居士 于 2005-8-17 23:24 发表
& B6 q# }4 m; s  E3 j但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~
* z( F; G' N# u7 n- u1 Z! g偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~
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干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~
作者: 王杰    时间: 2005-8-18 01:38
找个说法喈
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杀就杀嘛9 g- ^3 n1 G/ L, x' [

9 o  V# \* y! p; |* ?又不是见不得人" X$ L8 @/ h, B$ Y' Y( `

% s* Z2 }2 o: ]这世上人比鬼多
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多杀些
作者: 王杰    时间: 2005-8-18 01:41
原帖由 potato_esu 于 2005-8-18 01:33 发表" d! n8 W( u3 B- G5 f. F; b0 Y
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干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~
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干什么？承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶
作者: ksc    时间: 2005-8-18 02:48
那位能翻译一下啊~~~哦土不明白那英文是在说什么？: R; i+ t( c. C; U6 h* X6 w. q
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不过我到觉得无所谓啊因为是工作，人吗总要讨生活的做什么都是一样的，原则上不鄙视任何工作，实际是还是很喜欢不劳而获！撤远了嘿嘿！~~~~~~~6 e9 V$ r/ K( Z" V5 I0 x; ^' z

& H5 g3 [2 b# m% h. x, i7 ?; Y2 P让我想起了这里《一个死刑犯的行刑失败》一文中的小老鼠，其实它只是想填饱肚子有什么错呢？人何尝又不是呢？？？  s  b! A1 ~# \4 s) o3 Q

% J5 i0 t, }. n9 L4 |  ?; E对与错只是因为利益的不同而产生！其实什么都没有，真的是世上无一物啊。. Y0 ?) j9 @$ v6 k, l

# j" F  ]; M) Q+ g[ 本帖最后由 ksc 于 2005-8-18 02:49 编辑 ]
作者: KK    时间: 2005-8-18 11:17
标题: 雷哥,你这帖子有中文版的么?
今时今日这样的服务还是不够di ~# w( s& [5 N1 X6 O2 j6 z& D

/ m- \: w* J3 h# Z5 [8 Z电视都有双语广播啦~
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7 H  J3 O8 w* r! S偶英语差~你原谅偶吧
作者: yqw8422    时间: 2005-8-18 11:38
e文实在不好，看得糊里糊涂的。雷哥有中文版的么？
作者: potato_esu    时间: 2005-8-18 14:07
原帖由 王杰 于 2005-8-18 01:41 发表8 S2 K/ q7 y/ }* r4 D

- X& d, d/ O( P  [. Q' M8 W干什么？承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶

9 [0 z) J! O' g$ C% p/ Y3 g如果任务需要~呵呵~呵呵呵
作者: dboy    时间: 2005-8-18 14:13
翻译过来大概意思就是“我们不是士兵，我们是受薪去保护我们的客户的安全。”诸如此类
作者: 金属外壳    时间: 2005-8-18 14:18
看着好像是行为守则之类的东西，用的口气好象老鸟对新人的教导
作者: rigel    时间: 2005-8-18 15:02
抱歉啊····没有中文的···大意就是D大和壳壳说的了····
作者: 玩狗一族    时间: 2005-8-18 16:14
来个中文的嘛
作者: KlauB    时间: 2005-8-18 17:49
艰难阅读中……
作者: fisher    时间: 2005-8-18 18:23
翻译，翻译，最近英文水平下降了，又不想查字典，，，，，，
作者: 豺狼    时间: 2005-8-18 18:49
叫大家8要轻易使用武力，8要装骚发浪，要低调。全文的核心意思就素“安全第一”，怎么有点象《方世玉》里的点穴大师的口头禅？
作者: jam    时间: 2005-8-18 21:36
那还要不要“以德服人”？
作者: rigel    时间: 2005-8-19 13:17
因为你带着枪在战争地区，但是这并不能使你成为一个格斗家
8 s0 V/ o% \  u实际上你只是一个安全保护专家! B& y2 K* H0 Q" f7 q
我工作与一个安全公司，我向我的客户提供安全服务
+ e* F; s( X/ v% n6 v9 X7 L我只是在这里有一份工作，我不是来打仗的，我在82空降师的时候就已经在5 C" l% r5 m6 N; r1 g. F4 v
阿富汗和伊拉克打过仗了，假如你觉得你是战争的一部分，或者你想成为战争的一部分。
* ~* z8 S5 s$ N  k* @$ N去当兵吧。$ k, R& s4 E* e3 K8 g9 o
那么多人在为这个事情争论和迷惑，我发誓他们一定把自己想象成了军事连队3 E. q: Q: E3 ?5 E# v# i
我不知道你是不是要去搜索村庄或者准备这样做，但是你只是客人5千块的酬劳
4 F/ ^! x; e0 j( W5 ]来这里干活而已。
+ ?6 m  l9 @# n7 s未完··········翻译的不好，让英语高手见笑了·········" [8 P1 ]: \4 |) ?

% x& P- z+ v1 j0 JNow let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and
$ s! ]' r3 R7 V4 Aall.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me
8 ^8 i' t4 L7 v' o: d  `around safely and without getting shot, killed....etc...... 8 T3 i7 a) S1 g. f

1 N& }7 j8 `  T! S. l1 Lyour solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up 5 ~  b/ P3 P2 {9 Q! P
with other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at
: Y8 e  M! M. a. S" ythe the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I % G& J% P- \) t+ Q
dare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our 4 j* I7 ~4 t' h
coolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS 4 d3 W$ r. O7 {0 a
and bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way,
# o" o  g! t1 l/ E8 ^( ?3 T, Nthat guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like
1 @  R+ n0 f* }- \* P0 A* e* ban Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im
7 }6 ^2 D0 l! R4 _2 b# Dcool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this
6 U% {6 I* J% U: k% Q( }is war.   L& d8 h' C+ a6 s) u

# m: ^  H8 W# ]But your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior + y: ~; p! m0 p# z
spirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it 6 q; n  [& U0 t% R" {
up either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who 0 N" y3 s" m/ j
couldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that * H" ?" j" ?: s7 P, ^9 q& K% N
you were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher & A* m" V) S! j" Y! M
than high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator" 8 K; J" [* C' x
whatever you are calling yourself today. 3 i! f% j1 Z5 `- q$ K
2 z4 ?% k/ M% C
my point is this........You as a private security contractor are
- r; W/ n5 l# S- gjust that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase
- M  K$ N# D6 U, l  g* k# ohim.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your
) j* H0 q& ^% Z5 X2 r1 f0 j, mjob is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out . @4 \' u( s/ i
and start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if ; g: w9 M% F4 |( b) b2 ]
engaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa
6 f5 s; I# s8 _* n3 Tthere, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we $ l7 B; e! l, P! i( J
do is defensive.
/ m& q/ }( J6 G2 v' |4 C+ w0 [" ]
How many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of ; s6 U' g: V4 ?& O
inexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they 8 k6 Z! _6 c, D: Q  ^
too have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how 5 t  }5 B2 I7 \
many of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad 4 T/ H; ^7 W+ E+ f) X
what they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian.
* g! N! {- w/ D; j6 j  s4 I6 h+ a8 M, d5 s
so because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers,
  [6 V/ E7 n: s+ g4 }because I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem, 6 @0 @! ]$ y/ h* _
yet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these
, e8 O/ y$ x# z) vcompanies?
, E3 G* F; M6 @5 M8 k: x
% w& r1 N1 {& D# w; o$ b1 Kanyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security
$ W4 q1 I& L' M1 M8 r3 s! o+ l+ b( zprofessional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem
" A/ [& G5 F" r2 g8 p; Ito grasp just what your job is!
作者: 酷不理客    时间: 2005-8-19 16:38
好吧，我就来个金山翻译版本……哈哈哈
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  _! g% E2 c& d1 _8 g2 V. m金山翻译版本已经删除……
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& A. z5 ]" F# N$ r3 ]$ \6 n[ 本帖最后由 酷不理客 于 2005-8-19 16:54 编辑 ]
作者: commandchen    时间: 2005-8-19 16:46
楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.
作者: 酷不理客    时间: 2005-8-19 16:49
原帖由 commandchen 于 2005-8-19 16:46 发表
1 @# g2 ?: d& W" e  `楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.

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开玩笑，金山快译2005专业版……
作者: 金属外壳    时间: 2005-8-19 16:51
这种翻译拿出来要扣分
作者: 酷不理客    时间: 2005-8-19 16:53
原帖由 金属外壳 于 2005-8-19 16:51 发表
; u7 v# L6 {8 U6 n; [这种翻译拿出来要扣分
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不是巴，老大，今天下午我可是被扣成饼了
作者: 酷不理客    时间: 2005-8-19 16:55
删了，多一事不如少一事，闪阿



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