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标题: 一个军事承包商的发言，并且为承包商正名····· [打印本页]
作者: rigel    时间: 2005-8-17 22:30
标题: 一个军事承包商的发言，并且为承包商正名·····
欢迎转载，并且希望能得到公正客观的评价。谢谢
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, O& ?' o, W  q" fJust becuase you are carrying a gun in a war zone, dose not make you
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- `( I  _/ ?3 K" v7 yIn fact its that mind set that is gonna kill the "PMC" or the "PSD" 7 j+ E0 h7 M/ i/ M: |! [
whatever cool term you can come up with this week.
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I work for a "Security" Company, and thats what I do, i / R% L4 p2 s" i# }2 }
provide "security" for our clients. 9 M8 l2 {2 z6 N0 {9 C
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I only have one job here, and that is it.......Im not here to fight * v- g: u: a' s  O
a war............I did that already, in afghanistan and irag, with ( D& t, ]# G1 i, z/ q2 _& I  g$ x
the 82nd ABN..........then I was a combatant. if you feel like you # [4 D5 K+ ?$ m  F
are part of the "fight" or wanna be part of the fight.....Join the , J& C9 A$ H" o- X" ~/ G1 }% X6 W
freakin army! 2 E& W0 b& E9 n2 [! g

5 ], t, a* L, |0 J& r4 PSo many people roll up and down Route Irish in their "hard" details,
! D0 x" `  C7 s! x/ R) M; Kand i swear they think they are like a military unit....they got on
; d! L1 g, B- v& O5 C3 dDCU's......just about every thing that "General Jackson" in
  j" V" x2 }& s) n2 zfayetteville nc sells these yahoo's have got strapped to them, they
' |- J- l( b  h" k3 _4 b2 Mhave their guns out the windows,.....like what are you doing guy? / ~. j. G- z, H5 I4 W" g. s: @( V
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are you invading a village I dont know about, are you gonna cordon
* {5 W+ v' {3 C0 h3 s5 y5 [off and search a village...........Um....No, your taking a paying " [% X/ Q" g' _5 o* k8 Q
clint on a 5k ride to BIAP, which is about the only part of Iraq,
! `. H( c! }/ G  h  P  Uother than the IZ that you will see!
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Now let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and
" S3 O! p; x5 j& `( \' J4 vall.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me $ o% t. N. p4 h1 t# U% P
around safely and without getting shot, killed....etc......
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your solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up 4 L5 A  b: c3 }: p: c
with other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at ! [/ _! V# P# {
the the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I ( f/ {5 u- _0 F+ v1 r( ~4 p
dare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our
2 C$ a/ Z8 U' m  @7 Qcoolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS
, P1 P+ `9 C- V( q- o6 o( o9 dand bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way,
( ?( W" U3 C; u7 z3 f9 G5 ethat guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like / _5 M5 f$ m: v" {  n+ A" f
an Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im 7 \2 Q/ }! d8 s0 `5 T3 \' Q
cool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this
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But your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior . E9 k% E; |) L: n
spirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it
1 E: z$ n) Y3 e  n7 ]* C, }! \up either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who
( z% w7 f+ p9 N2 rcouldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that 0 h# X8 \9 b+ s* b1 p. G9 C2 y9 P" [
you were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher " t5 [- ~* N8 r* a
than high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator"
: I- p8 k* x/ x+ a$ zwhatever you are calling yourself today. 2 @) f* r4 N" ?' |$ T0 d' I
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my point is this........You as a private security contractor are
0 Y8 ^8 y$ ^7 U3 S  Hjust that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase
% }  o. d5 k( D0 }- v* t* l+ hhim.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your
6 T* E3 d" p9 `  Mjob is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out / y/ s1 w0 }7 a- T0 L! n6 O
and start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if
: g9 c$ A0 M1 {3 Zengaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa
9 \  [0 C4 z9 y! b7 ythere, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we 3 E" g2 E1 `4 V  b
do is defensive.
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How many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of
% J  R6 D4 P7 W/ v/ e4 a- K( winexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they - h# r& Z3 O2 k) D4 l) K
too have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how ( a5 r! W: J) i
many of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad
( A; \) b) H; j4 r# A: J8 |' W$ ^what they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian. ) G: {7 K2 H6 i! i- H
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so because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers,
4 M7 ?0 J) {. x" N- Mbecause I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem,
& r7 u" @' e; }" S& r) D7 m4 T% Y) Pyet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these 4 R1 v* C8 L7 y3 H8 y
companies?
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anyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security ) D) b  {$ c5 v' U0 V6 t# q- z
professional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem
) b5 D4 F2 N: s" ?6 uto grasp just what your job is!
作者: 王杰    时间: 2005-8-17 22:40
给杀人的扣过另外顶帽子% A% y# |4 t% Z" D1 H
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杀就杀嘛3 v' B2 N) S' s7 H1 ]
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哪儿来这边么多名堂
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全部杀光光% O$ R$ g6 v' g7 L

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他NND~~干！
作者: rigel    时间: 2005-8-17 22:45
你个猪头············我们的名声就是败在你这种死猪头身上了············干！！！！
作者: 金属外壳    时间: 2005-8-17 23:03
说的也是% {+ t7 p8 _& W* W( b' V! \# I
现在在大家眼中，基本把承包商和特种部队划等号了
作者: 金属外壳    时间: 2005-8-17 23:06
承包商应该是避免介入，而不是主动介入
作者: rigel    时间: 2005-8-17 23:12
壳壳了解的深刻啊······
* [. l9 X7 R% u8 l! z不像胡子一样·······
作者: 居士    时间: 2005-8-17 23:24
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~
9 V3 f. T6 o, h/ w. d偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~
作者: potato_esu    时间: 2005-8-18 01:33
原帖由 居士 于 2005-8-17 23:24 发表
: s+ V8 D3 N. t& q" j  Q' K; o% Q但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~2 g/ d( u1 d1 M4 r! L  G$ O" C
偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~
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干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~
作者: 王杰    时间: 2005-8-18 01:38
找个说法喈9 h" H7 _2 F( I+ W- W% I8 }8 [
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杀就杀嘛
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5 b" O7 E+ E, ~0 N; k8 F  v0 ^/ N. h又不是见不得人
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+ S$ |: [& n- W/ Y* ]6 W这世上人比鬼多
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作者: 王杰    时间: 2005-8-18 01:41
原帖由 potato_esu 于 2005-8-18 01:33 发表- Y4 ]: X2 d7 _1 G2 L4 J  ~

! R2 D* U# V8 o6 G9 g0 S! P. ~& A' ?干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~
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干什么？承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶
作者: ksc    时间: 2005-8-18 02:48
那位能翻译一下啊~~~哦土不明白那英文是在说什么？; s: V' P/ @* C3 R9 I% R5 P, o
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不过我到觉得无所谓啊因为是工作，人吗总要讨生活的做什么都是一样的，原则上不鄙视任何工作，实际是还是很喜欢不劳而获！撤远了嘿嘿！~~~~~~~
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让我想起了这里《一个死刑犯的行刑失败》一文中的小老鼠，其实它只是想填饱肚子有什么错呢？人何尝又不是呢？？？
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$ h" R  U  c4 Q+ Z; q+ Z对与错只是因为利益的不同而产生！其实什么都没有，真的是世上无一物啊。
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[ 本帖最后由 ksc 于 2005-8-18 02:49 编辑 ]
作者: KK    时间: 2005-8-18 11:17
标题: 雷哥,你这帖子有中文版的么?
今时今日这样的服务还是不够di ~/ K- k# e. O; v1 E6 h- l4 r9 M% f

) C( @, q* ]; ^' R* l2 C电视都有双语广播啦~
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偶英语差~你原谅偶吧
作者: yqw8422    时间: 2005-8-18 11:38
e文实在不好，看得糊里糊涂的。雷哥有中文版的么？
作者: potato_esu    时间: 2005-8-18 14:07
原帖由 王杰 于 2005-8-18 01:41 发表
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; c+ i) a' }! _, J5 u6 @- H7 C如果任务需要~呵呵~呵呵呵
作者: dboy    时间: 2005-8-18 14:13
翻译过来大概意思就是“我们不是士兵，我们是受薪去保护我们的客户的安全。”诸如此类
作者: 金属外壳    时间: 2005-8-18 14:18
看着好像是行为守则之类的东西，用的口气好象老鸟对新人的教导
作者: rigel    时间: 2005-8-18 15:02
抱歉啊····没有中文的···大意就是D大和壳壳说的了····
作者: 玩狗一族    时间: 2005-8-18 16:14
来个中文的嘛
作者: KlauB    时间: 2005-8-18 17:49
艰难阅读中……
作者: fisher    时间: 2005-8-18 18:23
翻译，翻译，最近英文水平下降了，又不想查字典，，，，，，
作者: 豺狼    时间: 2005-8-18 18:49
叫大家8要轻易使用武力，8要装骚发浪，要低调。全文的核心意思就素“安全第一”，怎么有点象《方世玉》里的点穴大师的口头禅？
作者: jam    时间: 2005-8-18 21:36
那还要不要“以德服人”？
作者: rigel    时间: 2005-8-19 13:17
因为你带着枪在战争地区，但是这并不能使你成为一个格斗家8 Z( }( @4 q& Z" E/ m
实际上你只是一个安全保护专家
9 H6 F# p* R6 N/ B我工作与一个安全公司，我向我的客户提供安全服务
2 S2 u* i* L3 E- m4 ^' e: S我只是在这里有一份工作，我不是来打仗的，我在82空降师的时候就已经在6 B% F% H) W+ p0 U9 M
阿富汗和伊拉克打过仗了，假如你觉得你是战争的一部分，或者你想成为战争的一部分。
  ?) O" I' C2 q/ Z$ u$ e去当兵吧。: r; b9 Y- k0 Z# g
那么多人在为这个事情争论和迷惑，我发誓他们一定把自己想象成了军事连队
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来这里干活而已。
$ }9 K3 Y4 Q! G$ B) m9 I4 Y未完··········翻译的不好，让英语高手见笑了·········
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  I) Z4 J) y* m: ZNow let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and
% x$ G2 g1 |! e6 l3 [all.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me 4 y0 s" h2 J( I! y
around safely and without getting shot, killed....etc...... 2 w2 e1 e; @9 a0 @& B" q- B
$ A2 @& o9 |/ J" r
your solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up ' T8 i+ W; g6 N. a6 v& C1 ?3 R
with other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at
' P" g6 i! m% }- p$ o) O& K7 z6 ~the the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I
& `; F2 Z+ M! [$ \6 n! z+ H0 qdare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our & U6 a. A! K) `& t8 ?" V, }7 y
coolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS
: A; b6 g0 Q2 ^$ z- E' N) Sand bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way, 5 u& [7 [- @0 ^
that guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like , M' l0 N% T' O# |5 I( V: ~8 Y" ]
an Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im
1 f( ]3 B( \# A! ccool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this
# e' V: |5 O! K0 i. [is war. $ M) h1 M$ z# w7 `
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But your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior ! T9 f8 C3 |5 m* n( N% [: V
spirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it
9 a6 a$ x  w, T7 ~up either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who
* ?- t! Z* F* y( [- R3 {# |* Zcouldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that
+ P8 D" v7 D( J2 ryou were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher " K, O- K# l! h/ m" j
than high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator"
# u% Q1 g7 {6 I9 E: r& B3 ^3 m% ewhatever you are calling yourself today.
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my point is this........You as a private security contractor are
+ L- |; p9 O( @% w0 Y; s0 Qjust that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase . j2 A/ N4 ?4 x
him.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your ( V) s9 N  q" h$ j  ]
job is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out 4 [" A0 H8 C5 E( E- O& |  a
and start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if
3 L# x. [' R5 ?5 Mengaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa
/ |0 w8 ]& ~' D# pthere, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we % n  _# C/ ]" E+ S
do is defensive. * s; J# s; P( K" @

1 f) o2 O/ x; r1 o0 iHow many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of
* w1 a! E+ j5 Q8 w6 y$ n3 ^& x7 Pinexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they % N- b6 j& y! M
too have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how
4 C0 D1 ~5 z* Z3 G" ]& Hmany of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad 2 a5 v! w" }' A- W# Y7 T) S
what they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian.
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/ U- S: c. K7 hso because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers, 2 U; c/ s6 N. k7 T2 ^' ?. m# k
because I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem,
. y. N% E$ Z; J( R+ cyet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these ; ]$ {" A7 D9 w% y4 [
companies?
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anyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security & ?$ ~5 m) c& r$ I3 |
professional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem / c8 E1 |, Q; Z, a6 n
to grasp just what your job is!
作者: 酷不理客    时间: 2005-8-19 16:38
好吧，我就来个金山翻译版本……哈哈哈' g; K1 o6 a6 C% j. }; A7 D
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金山翻译版本已经删除……1 F: q' k( M& l

% g4 {/ ~4 }: E4 ]! r. Q[ 本帖最后由 酷不理客 于 2005-8-19 16:54 编辑 ]
作者: commandchen    时间: 2005-8-19 16:46
楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.
作者: 酷不理客    时间: 2005-8-19 16:49
原帖由 commandchen 于 2005-8-19 16:46 发表& y. a) A$ V5 g# S6 |3 K% {6 Q
楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.

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$ L6 }9 _- B4 h' g开玩笑，金山快译2005专业版……
作者: 金属外壳    时间: 2005-8-19 16:51
这种翻译拿出来要扣分
作者: 酷不理客    时间: 2005-8-19 16:53
原帖由 金属外壳 于 2005-8-19 16:51 发表+ k4 S1 }, q( P0 v" H/ V
这种翻译拿出来要扣分

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: @9 ]) [& T& |( F不是巴，老大，今天下午我可是被扣成饼了
作者: 酷不理客    时间: 2005-8-19 16:55
删了，多一事不如少一事，闪阿



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