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标题: 新加坡有SCOOM TEAM? 据说还有退役的和上海特警下过场？ [打印本页]
作者: xiaomum    时间: 2009-5-21 20:04
标题: 新加坡有SCOOM TEAM? 据说还有退役的和上海特警下过场？
听朋友吹牛提到的
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说上海特警被包饺子
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作者: 黑郁金香    时间: 2009-5-21 20:07
有这事么？求真相……
作者: 装甲兔    时间: 2009-5-21 20:11
强力围观...等真相...
作者: 阿来    时间: 2009-5-21 20:14
卖花生 冰啤酒 遮阳伞 板凳！
作者: gorm    时间: 2009-5-21 20:17
喔唷 人挺多嘛。。。。。。
作者: luoyuwendtc    时间: 2009-5-21 20:18
列兵搬凳子围观求真相
作者: gorm    时间: 2009-5-21 20:20
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卖花生 冰啤酒 遮阳伞 板凳！, B$ P, k# [% n. ^. ^
阿来 发表于 2009-5-21 20:14

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瓜仔来么一个。。。。
作者: AK74MS    时间: 2009-5-21 20:29
火星零售批市场属下小卖部前来抢占市场！！
作者: redgas    时间: 2009-5-21 20:31
瓜子、汽水、冰糕、板凳、报纸.....
作者: leopard005    时间: 2009-5-21 20:33
听朋友吹牛提到的
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说上海特警被包饺子
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求万能的C2大神们指点，是吹牛还是真事* P& t0 n9 n5 W! [2 d0 v
xiaomum 发表于 2009-5-21 20:04

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这种事情么，问问痘大，看看他知道不~~
作者: jason-lee    时间: 2009-5-21 20:36
这种事情么，问问痘大，看看他知道不~~+ F2 _/ f) E8 b7 @
leopard005 发表于 2009-5-21 20:33
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% C/ a( a# D) \我敢肯定，就是他被新加坡巴子包了饺子.......
作者: jason-lee    时间: 2009-5-21 20:39
听朋友吹牛提到的
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xiaomum 发表于 2009-5-21 20:04
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很想知道SCOOM是啥玩意？
作者: luoyuwendtc    时间: 2009-5-21 20:42
特种作战指挥部= =|||
作者: leopard005    时间: 2009-5-21 20:45
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特种作战指挥部= =|||
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那个缩写也不可能所成那样吧？肯定是写的有问题么~~
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作者: luoyuwendtc    时间: 2009-5-21 20:48
就不兴人家西和欧打反了啊~
作者: 小炮    时间: 2009-5-22 11:39
大连特警被SDU都打得包饺子了何况上海哪围观中！
作者: 黑郁金香    时间: 2009-5-22 11:54
啊？大连也被包过饺子啊？
作者: xiaomum    时间: 2009-5-22 18:12
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这都是体制问题啊~
作者: 轰轰    时间: 2009-5-22 18:35
跟着大家围观一下..
作者: F22sdu    时间: 2009-5-22 20:23
很期待看RP特警RP爆发。话说，谁能解释下着RP特警的渊源啊？怎么叫了这么个名字
作者: fisher    时间: 2009-5-22 20:35
飞机，快出来扫地，好多无牌小贩，赶紧包围他们，这回我们零售业工会发达了！
作者: AQ龙    时间: 2009-5-22 21:16
正常的，我也遇到过这样的事，不奇怪。职业并不等于专业，何况警察本来就是执法行动，以绝对优势行动的，与两军对攻的GAME不同
作者: jason-lee    时间: 2009-5-22 22:54
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luoyuwendtc 发表于 2009-5-21 20:42
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至于包饺子一说，纯属无稽之谈。上海的RP怎么会集体去新加坡观光？还是新加坡的SCOOM集体来上海出差？和所谓大连特警被HK的SDU包饺子也是风月笑话而已，几个SDU的教官在大连执教，训练罢了，又不是成建制的单位来比武，哪里来的包饺子？那上海高等公安专科学校里的外教还不是天天在上课啊，难道非要说成是美国SWAT包了上海RP的饺子？这不是开玩笑嘛。虽说对于国内RP的能力没有研究，但是对于国内这种涉外交流项目的管制严格程度还是有点了解的，就像前些年所谓中美陆战队大比拼之类的娱乐活动，我们是绝对不会拿自己的软肋来和人家的拳头相比的，有点常识的都知道，中美陆战队的主要差异在于体制而不是材质，我们是兵种，人家是军种，我们几千人，人家十几万，我们是SOF编制，人家不过是一支常规武装力量罢了，我们拿拳头和人家的手臂相比，虽说个头小很多，但肯定是要硬不少。回到RP的问题上也一样，日常训练，不存在什么包饺子的说法，真要有竞赛，绝对不会有偏差，谁敢胡来，潜规则伺候.......
作者: 蜡笔小嘉    时间: 2009-5-22 23:44
一头雾水的人路过，等待真相...
作者: EXNUDTER    时间: 2009-5-22 23:46
二头雾水的人路过，一同等待细节
作者: 痘痘狼    时间: 2009-5-22 23:58
指挥部？又不是抗洪抢险抗震救灾，哪来的什么指挥部？. Y" t1 _3 T2 ?# B! p- J
SCOOM是什么单位我怎么样想像不出来，我只知道SOCOM是特种作战司令部，从没有听说新加坡军队有这么个机构。
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作者: xiaomi    时间: 2009-5-23 02:06
唉，LEE总，咱们都可以歇歇了，是LZ的QQ群里一个家伙在那吹嘘，忽悠LZ他们，他们将信将疑，也吃的太饱，闲得慌了，还真来C2问，都和他们说了是扯淡了。。。。。。新加坡这个90年代前还只有警察部队的国度，还特种部 ...
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作者: xiaomi    时间: 2009-5-23 02:10
找到了一点介绍，还有更多的可以自己去这个连接看
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Singapore Special Operations Force
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Special Operations Force
# [' `, v% A4 K( S0 D! ]Active 1984 (existence acknowledged only in 1997) - Present
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Type Special Forces
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Part of Singapore Commandos
. w0 h' X7 \7 ^4 A' _Nickname Rumoured by some personnel within the army to have the codename Land Eagles
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. W8 r) v# m6 q6 r  d! b0 ~The Special Operations Force (SOF) is part of the Singapore Army's Commandos arm. It is highly trained, and trains regularly with the United States Delta Force, U.S. Army Rangers, and Navy SEALs. They also practice free-falling in all terrains and weather conditions.
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The Special Operations Force is made up of an unspecified number. It is an elite Special Force which deals with situations such as hostage-taking, counter-terrorism and its war-time role of reconnaissance and strategic special operations. As with other such organisations, the identities of its personnel are closely guarded. The most prominent SOF personnel (due to high profile appointments after active service) is Colonel (Ret)Lo Yong Po, who often bears United States Navy Seal badges and service medals.+ t# a3 C4 T4 l! {' ]
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Troopers are trained in jungle-warfare, reconnaissance and counterterrorism, and are deployable by land, airborne assault and amphibious assault, specializing in free-falling, diving and long-range land insertion. They are each cross-trained to operate all types of weapons and equipment, though each trooper is assigned a specialist appointment in his team.3 T9 \. G6 Q' \: h% P
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SOF exhibition booth displaying their equipment during the National Day Parade celebrations of 2005 at Marina South
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Local authorities were not informed of the situation until four hours later. Following a flurry of conflicting reports, Australia's Department of Civil Aviation warned Paya Lebar Airport "to be ready for a possible hijacking."
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  f' b$ a( D/ g  H. jIn June 2005, a regular with the SOF, Second Sergeant Ong Jia Hui, 24, drowned during training. State Coroner Tan Boon Heng criticised four instructors, Master Sergeant Tan Kang Choon, Master Sergeant Julian Tan, Staff Sergeant Alex Chan and First Warrant Officer Ho Yin Choy, for failing to notice that Ong had gone under water, contributing to his death. The incident also raised public awareness of the unit's existence and the counter-terrorism training which was being conducted. The Minister of Defence Teo Chee Hean said it was the first such incident in the SOF. As of 2006, the SAF was investigating the incident.[1].
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It takes approximately four years to complete SOF training, including training in overseas deployments and freefalls, to qualify as an SOF trooper.
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Known operations include the 1991 rescue of Singapore Airlines Flight 117 at Singapore Changi Airport.
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The SIA Airbus A310 was hijacked by Pakistani militants on March 26, 1991, en route from Kuala Lumpur to Singapore. Singapore Armed Forces (SAF) commandos stormed the Airbus at 6:50 am on March 27 with the operation over in 30 seconds and 123 passengers and crew were freed with no injuries to hostages or SOF commandos[2]. All four hijackers were killed by gunfire.[2]# F" r5 x" R! Z. F6 }5 h
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作者: SBYS1    时间: 2009-5-23 02:21
进来看忽悠的
作者: xiaomum    时间: 2009-5-23 18:59
因为说那话的号称也混C2嘛
作者: bigeyes    时间: 2009-5-23 23:28
新加坡的MBSS和特警明显是有区别的，根本不能比么。
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作者: jason-lee    时间: 2009-5-23 23:47
军警同训的国家就是咱们这了，不过这几年进步了，知道警察和军队的区别，也就分开训了.....不过一块赛还是还有的，不少国家和地区都有这种赛事，咱们听得最多的估计就是爱尔纳了.....不过这个都是正式赛事，非正式的就没谱了，或许多如牛毛吧.....
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' i; s% S8 l0 i, `' i% L4 i8 l愿望是好的，指望咱们也能像发达国家一样多交流多学习，但是......我们绝大多数时候是打着交流学习的幌子出去公费游山玩水的，这个已经是众人皆知的事，没啥好多讲的.....
作者: F22sdu    时间: 2009-5-23 23:48
夹生老大，豆腐狼，给咱科普下“RP”这名字的来历啊，困惑N久了
作者: 痘痘狼    时间: 2009-5-24 00:04
貌似新加坡军方确实有一个特种作战单位存在的说．记得前些年看到过一篇资料文章讲到过新加坡军方的这个特种作战单位，具体叫什么名字不记得了，但是好象是介绍新加坡军方的这个单位的一些类似登船搜索保安的行动 ...0 f) }# \# Z7 N
xiaomi 发表于 2009-5-23 02:06
我的意思是特种部队的实际战斗力,而不是否认新加坡现在没有特种部队.90年代后新加坡就搭上了北约,特别和美军走的近,以抵挡马来西亚等的压力!
作者: gfnuiyyqq    时间: 2009-5-26 17:49
等29楼的中文版本。。不懂英文。
作者: coolerxin    时间: 2009-7-2 11:16
RP=ranger police



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